What's something you once had a lot of respect for but now have no respect for?
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Whether you agree with religion or not, religious groups do a lot of good in the world on a daily basis.
Sure, but religion arguably does just as bad if not worse in all kinds of areas.
It touches on everything from the warped understanding of the world, to superficial gestures of kindness for loyalty in return, to substituting health care with dangerous consequences, to giving criminals a clear conscience, it promotes hateful group thinking, subjects their followers to paths of radicalization or extremism, it both promotes & is used as a tool for suppression and subjugation of others, etc, etc. Yes, religion can do good, but the underbelly is hideous.
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Sure, but religion arguably does just as bad if not worse in all kinds of areas.
It touches on everything from the warped understanding of the world, to superficial gestures of kindness for loyalty in return, to substituting health care with dangerous consequences, to giving criminals a clear conscience, it promotes hateful group thinking, subjects their followers to paths of radicalization or extremism, it both promotes & is used as a tool for suppression and subjugation of others, etc, etc. Yes, religion can do good, but the underbelly is hideous.
The underbelly of human institutions are generally hideous. This does not change the fact that religious groups do good in the world daily, and that work wouldn't be done otherwise if we simply removed religion all together.
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The underbelly of human institutions are generally hideous. This does not change the fact that religious groups do good in the world daily, and that work wouldn't be done otherwise if we simply removed religion all together.
Well, how about we flip it: why are secular organizations not recognized for the work they do? I mean, why are religious institutions getting all the credit as if they were inherently more virtuous?
The only advantage religion has is its active community that propels initiatives as part of a grand ideal. I don't think the actual work would go undone if the project had already been established from the overwhelming support of an existing secular community. Helping others is, after all, human nature.
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Well, how about we flip it: why are secular organizations not recognized for the work they do? I mean, why are religious institutions getting all the credit as if they were inherently more virtuous?
The only advantage religion has is its active community that propels initiatives as part of a grand ideal. I don't think the actual work would go undone if the project had already been established from the overwhelming support of an existing secular community. Helping others is, after all, human nature.
Numerous secular organizations get credit for the work they do. Religious isn't more virtuous.
Go cry about your feelings elsewhere
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I’m gonna say Tim Cook.
The way he signaled his authority was by sending out an email to the entire company announcing that he was expanding the company's match program for employees who wanted part of their paycheck to go to NGOs. I thought that was a classy way of saying, "I'm in charge." I had a lot of respect for that.
But his leadership with the App Store and regulators has been abysmal. He led Apple to make all the wrong moves, ensuring a (now active) fight with regulators instead of just making some small concessions voluntarily. It was completely unnecessary, but he just couldn't help feeling entitled for Apple to do whatever it wants to make money. I still believe there are people in leadership positions who would choose to do the right thing, but the buck stops with Cook.
Apple might be worthy of my respect again when he's gone.
Apple have always done what they wanted. In the Jobs era the biggest Apple Store in the world was on Regents Street in London, and Apple paid the local council vast fines each month because Jobs decided that the required illuminated fire exit signs would have ruined the carefully designed interior.
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Numerous secular organizations get credit for the work they do. Religious isn't more virtuous.
Go cry about your feelings elsewhere
Yeah, after they established a reputation and many years of hard work. Religious orgs don't need to do all that. They show a spiritual symbol and everybody assumes they're doing the Lord's work.
Go cry about your feelings elsewhere
I think you got emotional and started projecting. But don't get confused now and start breaking rule 1.
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How do you know any of them would do any of the good things they do without religion guiding them?
Non religious groups do horrific things every day.
Numerous things are used to justify atrocities including our global economic structures, education systems, etc.
No matter what people will do horrendous things and justify them however they see fit. Religious people do good and evil because of their faith and they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons.
they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons
They are absolutely different, because in some major religions, devotion is rewarded or promised heavily in the afterlife, which creates a great incentive. These people are more likely to become radicalized or extremists, often going out of their way to impose their worldview on others through harassment, aggression, or influence. I'll point to Mother Theresa, who inflicted so much pain on others when she thought she was doing good, often withholding pain medicine and other treatments. She said suffering is what God intended, and so she did... unto others.
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Neil Gaiman. He poisoned so much...
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Nintendo.
Things got worse once Bowser got ahold of the American castle.
The fun dissolved with Iwata and Reggie gone.
The line to far for me was their retroactive bs patents used to attack Palworld. It's one thing to be strict on your own systems, but another to do it to others. 80s Nintendo is back and possibly worse than before.
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Elon. Turns out he was always a conman and liar.
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they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons
They are absolutely different, because in some major religions, devotion is rewarded or promised heavily in the afterlife, which creates a great incentive. These people are more likely to become radicalized or extremists, often going out of their way to impose their worldview on others through harassment, aggression, or influence. I'll point to Mother Theresa, who inflicted so much pain on others when she thought she was doing good, often withholding pain medicine and other treatments. She said suffering is what God intended, and so she did... unto others.
You can respond to my whole comment if you wish for me to respond to you. You didn't even quote the whole sentence.
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Yeah, after they established a reputation and many years of hard work. Religious orgs don't need to do all that. They show a spiritual symbol and everybody assumes they're doing the Lord's work.
Go cry about your feelings elsewhere
I think you got emotional and started projecting. But don't get confused now and start breaking rule 1.
Nope not emotional, just tired of your whining about how secular organizations get no credit and religious get it without asking even though there is a pile of evidence to the contrary, and I told you to take it elsewhere.
Apologies if that hurt your feelings.
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Google. It was once a good search engine. Now I find myself getting only the most irrelevant results based on my keywords and more often than not an advanced search turns up nothing of value
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Google. It was once a good search engine. Now I find myself getting only the most irrelevant results based on my keywords and more often than not an advanced search turns up nothing of value
It went downhill when they got rid of search within results, I don't know why they did that
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Liberalism
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It went downhill when they got rid of search within results, I don't know why they did that
Me neither! Really frustrates me when companies remove good features for no apparent reason
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Nintendo.
Things got worse once Bowser got ahold of the American castle.
The fun dissolved with Iwata and Reggie gone.
The line to far for me was their retroactive bs patents used to attack Palworld. It's one thing to be strict on your own systems, but another to do it to others. 80s Nintendo is back and possibly worse than before.
I haven't played with a switch very much but I think the joysticks are worse than what they made for GameCube. I am under the impression that switch has what amounts to a directional pad underneath a joystick. Like that Gameboy peripheral with the lights, magnifier, and joystick that clips over the D pad. The joystick is there on the switch but output is only an analog 8 directions.
Pardon me if I'm wrong here but what I see with Nintendo is them making bad hardware. I know it's made for kids but even they deserve better. The switch version of any big AAA game that got a switch port is generally really really dumbed down and looks and runs like garbage. I can't wait to hear about Cyberpunk 2077 looking and running like garbage again. 5 years after it came out.
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Neil Gaiman. He poisoned so much...
wrote on last edited by [email protected]In 1994 Neil was at a signing at my university campus. It was a big to-do. My friend, a big fan, came for a signing and whispered a few words.
Suddenly Neil is vaulting the table trying to choke the living shit out of my friend. Friend's backpedaling, eyes wide, Gaiman's face a rictus of rage and fury, and then many people jump in and slow it down
Friendo booted, things calm down, minimal mention in the uni rag. Never learned what was said, but now I suspect it was a pretty badly-kept secret for a long time.
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Nope not emotional, just tired of your whining about how secular organizations get no credit and religious get it without asking even though there is a pile of evidence to the contrary, and I told you to take it elsewhere.
Apologies if that hurt your feelings.
Oh, now it's whining! First, I'm emotional, but then you realize that backfires, and now I'm whining.
And my feelings are hurt.
Sorry but I feel like laughing with all this. Loud, obnoxious laughter would be the emotion I'm feeling right now. -
You can respond to my whole comment if you wish for me to respond to you. You didn't even quote the whole sentence.
Religious people do good and evil because of their faith and they are no different than anyone else doing those things for their own reasons.
They are absolutely different, because in some major religions, devotion is rewarded or promised heavily in the afterlife, which creates a great incentive. These people are more likely to become radicalized or extremists, often going out of their way to impose their worldview on others through harassment, aggression, or influence. I’ll point to Mother Theresa, who inflicted so much pain on others when she thought she was doing good, often withholding pain medicine and other treatments. She said suffering is what God intended, and so she did… unto others.
There you go. You're more preoccupied with ceremony than substance because your substance has run thin.
