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What is palantir in lord of the rings / tolken, and what does that fortell about the dystopian company palantir?

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    I’ve heard it’s from LOTR but I’m not very into that but want to understand what that foreshadows for this dystopian data grabbing nightmare company

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    I mean, the artifact in LotR is magical. Reading too much into the name would be a mistake.

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      Sure. Sauron was the one who corrupted the kings and people of Númenor and led to the downfall of the Empire.
      So I tend to agree with you.

      Replace sauron with thiel and Empire with the States (world?), and yeah, spot on.

      But sauron didn't create the palantirs.

      And my point was that HE SEES HIMSELF as one of the good, wise, near imortal kings of Numenor before the corruption of Sauron.

      This is reality. There isn't a sauron to blame.
      And I don't like that Tolkien thinks that white people are flawless without a devil like thing to corrupt them.

      But he was Christian...and a thing i learned about religion is that all glory is to God and all fault is to the devil(s)...people are inherently pure and Good. /s

      Happy account day 🫡

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      The horrible culture of the US is Sauron. All the racism, exploitation of immigrants, sexism, genocide of the native peoples, colonialism, deepthroating of capitalism, and other terrible aspects of society are what lead to Thiel being who he is.

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        I knew someone was going to write that.

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        I couldn't help myself:p

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          I’ve heard it’s from LOTR but I’m not very into that but want to understand what that foreshadows for this dystopian data grabbing nightmare company

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          Originally, The Great Elf Smith Feanor Created three gems (the Silmarils) that captured the light of the trees, Gold, Silver and combined gold and silver light, they were blessed and holy. They were Stolen by Melkor/Morgoth, w the help of Ungoliant, the Mother of Shelob. The Brothers of Feanor Spread out, and they Vowed to get the Silmarils Back, The Palantir were then created by Feanor so the brothers could coordinate w each other over distance. In LOTR, We see that Sauruman has one, and Sauron (Servant of Morgoth) Has one. - His power and influence worked through it, he could see the minds and the intentions of those who looked into it. Originally they were just for the Brothers to communicate. The Silmarillion is my favorite book, really worth reading, IMHO better than all the LOTR + Hobbit, Its the total Backstoiry/Prequel to LOTR and Tolkien Died before it was truly finished, His son Published it, and it's brilliant.

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