But I like the secret handshakes of the Illuminati
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I'm still trying to figure out if Bill Gates is good or evil.
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I'm still trying to figure out if Bill Gates is good or evil.
Totally evil. His vaccine campaigns (covid and before) have the sole purpose to legitimize copyrights on life saving medicine and he gets the power to decide who lives and who dies. And he uses this to optimize for good headlines like "malaria extinguished in region X" where X is a region with barely any malaria in the first place but it sounds better than "medicine send to where it's needed most according to real experts" which is a region with a high rate and you will barely lower it but rather control which makes more sense but less headline. I hope I'm making sense.
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As Naomi Klein said: Conspiracy theorists often get the feeling right but the facts wrong.
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Totally evil. His vaccine campaigns (covid and before) have the sole purpose to legitimize copyrights on life saving medicine and he gets the power to decide who lives and who dies. And he uses this to optimize for good headlines like "malaria extinguished in region X" where X is a region with barely any malaria in the first place but it sounds better than "medicine send to where it's needed most according to real experts" which is a region with a high rate and you will barely lower it but rather control which makes more sense but less headline. I hope I'm making sense.
I'd like to see some factual reporting on this
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Secret group of rich people
Let me guess. Those rich people are Jewish?
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Totally evil. His vaccine campaigns (covid and before) have the sole purpose to legitimize copyrights on life saving medicine and he gets the power to decide who lives and who dies. And he uses this to optimize for good headlines like "malaria extinguished in region X" where X is a region with barely any malaria in the first place but it sounds better than "medicine send to where it's needed most according to real experts" which is a region with a high rate and you will barely lower it but rather control which makes more sense but less headline. I hope I'm making sense.
I thought the Gates Foundation was almost universally deemed to be helping people.
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Why not both?
The rich love being in a exclusive secret clubs and creating a secret club with dedicated buildings/rooms is not super difficult if you have money. They are still the same rich though.
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I'd like to see some factual reporting on this
Google "Bill Gates Covid patents" First hit is a payed PR result saying how he has reversed course (fucking eyeroll)
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I'd like to see some factual reporting on this
I remember listening to a Citations Needed Podcast episode, I guess it's this one and a Thought Slime video
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I'm still trying to figure out if Bill Gates is good or evil.
Gates made his money off monopolizing technology. You can find memos where he specifically leveraged his contacts with manufacturers to ignore specifications (which Microsoft helped specify) so FOSS like Linux wouldn't work properly.
I truly believe in a world without Microsoft that todays software would be much safer, private and advanced by quite a few years.
Gates only became a philanthropist after he married, there's probably a very good reason she left, even excluding the Epstein connections.
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Why not both?
The rich love being in a exclusive secret clubs and creating a secret club with dedicated buildings/rooms is not super difficult if you have money. They are still the same rich though.
It’s almost certainly both. It’s the ones we know about (all the stupid ones) and the ones we don’t know about (smarter.)
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I thought the Gates Foundation was almost universally deemed to be helping people.
I guess I put the "almost" into that. If you're open to join me, in addition to what I've linked to in another comment, check out this video
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It’s almost certainly both. It’s the ones we know about (all the stupid ones) and the ones we don’t know about (smarter.)
Exactly. There is a theory that those actually in charge are bored of Trump, hence why he’s suddenly getting thrown under the bus. They aren’t necessarily richer, just collectively have more money/power.
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As Naomi Klein said: Conspiracy theorists often get the feeling right but the facts wrong.
i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every elaborate conspiracy theory is a distraction from a simple and straightforward conspiracy. for every "trump is trying to uncover a vast child sex ring" there's a "trump fucks kids and our system of capital protects him"
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i have an ur-conspiracy theory that every elaborate conspiracy theory is a distraction from a simple and straightforward conspiracy. for every "trump is trying to uncover a vast child sex ring" there's a "trump fucks kids and our system of capital protects him"
That kind of sums up the difference Naomi Klein makes in Doppelganger about conspiracy theory and leftist critics: Leftists will look at the system while conspiracy theorists will assume the system is good but some people, most often Jews, have somehow corrupted it.
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Exactly. There is a theory that those actually in charge are bored of Trump, hence why he’s suddenly getting thrown under the bus. They aren’t necessarily richer, just collectively have more money/power.
Yeah but who knows that’s all entirely speculation at this point.
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I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!
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That kind of sums up the difference Naomi Klein makes in Doppelganger about conspiracy theory and leftist critics: Leftists will look at the system while conspiracy theorists will assume the system is good but some people, most often Jews, have somehow corrupted it.
Im sure you know Cory Doctrorow already but i still wanted to share this little section from one of his recent blogposts.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/07/19/systemic/
Trump's conspiratorial base are hugely and reliably animated by stories about impunity for elite sex predators. As well they should be! Elite sex predators get away with all kinds of crimes – not just Epstein, but the whole universe of powerful men, from Harvey Weinstein to Donald Trump, who systematically abused women for decades and got away with it – bragged about it, even!
But despite these very real abusers, the conspiracists in the Trump base are mostly concerned with imaginary abusers – Qanon's shadowy cabal of adrenochrome-guzzling pedophiles, tirelessly freighting trafficked children from one nonexistent pizza parlor basement to the next, packed inside of very mid Wayfair home furnishings:
https://pluralistic.net/2021/07/05/ideomotor-response/#qonspiracy
This is the "mirror world" of right wing conspiracism described in Naomi Klein's Doppelganger:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/05/not-that-naomi/#if-the-naomi-be-klein-youre-doing-just-fine
It's the world in which real suffering children (kids in cages, children rotting in Alligator Auschwitz, kids working the night-shift at a meat-packing plant) don't matter at all, while imaginary children (unborn children, Qanon victims, etc) take center stage.
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Secret group of rich people
Let me guess. Those rich people are Jewish?
What is it with people associating Judaism with secret power? Just because they win a disproportionate amount of Nobel prizes?
