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Break Things !== Move Fast

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    At work we have the following quote on the fridge

    "A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

    We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

    Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

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    That quote sounds like an excuse for mass production worship a la brave new world, lol.

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      Controversial opinion: I think software moving fast isn’t a good thing.

      The more versions come out and the more focus there is on new features, the more half baked/abandoned the existing features become and there will be more vulnerabilities.

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        That's a really terrible anecdote. Real life quantity group would find ways to do less and less for the same reward. You would end up with fifty pounds of clay with a fist shape indention. Call it a pot and be done.

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        Yeah, I highly doubt it happened.

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          At work we have the following quote on the fridge

          "A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

          We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

          Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

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          Also, the comparison is stupid because we don’t write code, realize it was shit and write a new one.

          I mean, you shouldn't, but it sounds like the quote-poster is asking for exactly that kind of boondoggle of a project.

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            I always respond with "Do you want to know if something broke? Then slow down and write tests"

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              Controversial opinion: I think software moving fast isn’t a good thing.

              The more versions come out and the more focus there is on new features, the more half baked/abandoned the existing features become and there will be more vulnerabilities.

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              I probably shouldn't even be using youtube in the first place, but 5 min ago I found out youtube is now forcing videos with an AI translated voice. While at the same time not having an option to change the audio track or disable the feature.

              This feels like a good example of pushing features most people don't want while not providing a normal way to disable it.

              Thank God I use revanced and can spoof the client as IOS TV, this gives you the option do disable that crap.

              Firefox (even mobile) has this addon "YT Anti Translate"

              It's pretty bad you have to go this far just to watch a video with the actual voice it was released with...

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                My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

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                  I probably shouldn't even be using youtube in the first place, but 5 min ago I found out youtube is now forcing videos with an AI translated voice. While at the same time not having an option to change the audio track or disable the feature.

                  This feels like a good example of pushing features most people don't want while not providing a normal way to disable it.

                  Thank God I use revanced and can spoof the client as IOS TV, this gives you the option do disable that crap.

                  Firefox (even mobile) has this addon "YT Anti Translate"

                  It's pretty bad you have to go this far just to watch a video with the actual voice it was released with...

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                  Y tho

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                    My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

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                    "Everybody knows you can have it done well, fast, or cheap. Pick two."

                    "No! All three! All the time! Zero drawbacks! All profits and benefits! I am a very good and visionary boss. Have some room temperature Little Caesar's on the house and make me rich."

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                    • D [email protected]

                      At work we have the following quote on the fridge

                      "A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

                      We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

                      Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

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                      ...and then add a sticky note below it:

                      "And then Einstein and Obama and Jobs were there and everybody clapped they were so shocked!"

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                        My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

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                        Break things... Just not the things that affect me!

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                        • D [email protected]

                          At work we have the following quote on the fridge

                          "A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

                          We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

                          Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

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                          Why can't you be a team player? /s

                          Also, if you break the spirits of upper management, does that count?

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                            My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

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                            tbf, the breakage isn't supposed to be internal, but external. Old worn in structures, bureaucratic overhead, etc

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                              I probably shouldn't even be using youtube in the first place, but 5 min ago I found out youtube is now forcing videos with an AI translated voice. While at the same time not having an option to change the audio track or disable the feature.

                              This feels like a good example of pushing features most people don't want while not providing a normal way to disable it.

                              Thank God I use revanced and can spoof the client as IOS TV, this gives you the option do disable that crap.

                              Firefox (even mobile) has this addon "YT Anti Translate"

                              It's pretty bad you have to go this far just to watch a video with the actual voice it was released with...

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                              I changed the language back to the original and never had an interaction with the ai voice again

                              Do you not have the original audio track on the sound settings?

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                                Move fast, break society, and then buy entire governments while still being a dick.

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                                  I changed the language back to the original and never had an interaction with the ai voice again

                                  Do you not have the original audio track on the sound settings?

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                                  Is this on the desktop chrome version, or the app? For me in the app there is no button or any way to change this. Same for the site in Firefox mobile. I was on my phone, so I don't know about the desktop version.

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                                    Move fast, break things.

                                    Move slow, break things.

                                    Don't move at all, break things.

                                    Maybe I'm just bad at CSS

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      At work we have the following quote on the fridge

                                      "A ceramics teacher announced on opening day that he was dividing the class into two groups. All those on the left side of the studio, he said, would be graded solely on the quantity of work they produced, all those on the right solely on its quality. His procedure was simple: on the final day of class he would bring in his bathroom scales and weigh the work of the “quantity” group: fifty pound of pots rated an “A”, forty pounds a “B”, and so on. Those being graded on “quality”, however, needed to produce only one pot — albeit a perfect one — to get an “A”. Well, came grading time and a curious fact emerged: the works of highest quality were all produced by the group being graded for quantity. It seems that while the “quantity” group was busily churning out piles of work – and learning from their mistakes — the “quality” group had sat theorizing about perfection, and in the end had little more to show for their efforts than grandiose theories and a pile of dead clay."

                                      We are a software development company and my reply to this was basically that pot making hasn't changed in a long time, it's basically shaping and firing clay. Software development is comparatively new and has a vastly more dynamic landscape.

                                      Also, the comparison is stupid because we don't write code, realize it was shit and write a new one. If we did business like that, we wouldn't be in business.

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                                      Ah yes a quote about beginners rapidly gaining beginner gains by practicing really does apply to a group of professionals trying to do their job in a business /s

                                      It's shocking the amount of morons people trying to do their job have to deal with nowadays. I'm sorry you have a colleague with the critical thinking ability of a punch drunk.

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                                        It's the corporate equivalent of "live, laugh, love"

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                                          My company says it wants to move fast and break things but they really just want you to move fast and get mad when things break 🫠

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                                          Well it didn't say it wants to "Move fast -> break things -> not get mad", so I'd say it has already done the things it is saying it wants to, right?

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