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Donald Trump faces new Articles of Impeachment over Iran strikes

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  • B [email protected]

    Oh well. If someone gets away with a crime then it's totally pointless to go after them for subsequent crimes. It's that one loophole that every prosecutor hates.

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    #57

    And it's totally insane to so the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

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    • S [email protected]

      Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

      "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

      "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

      This is a developing story and will be updated.

      Round 3.

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      #58

      this will get him for sure this time...

      if not...

      maybe the next one...

      or like...

      maybe if he's arrested/a felon...

      what's that you're saying...

      edit: MatrixCatDejaVu.gif

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      • S [email protected]

        Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

        "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

        "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

        This is a developing story and will be updated.

        Round 3.

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        #59

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        • B [email protected]

          And it's totally insane to so the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

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          #60

          Rolling dice, flipping a coin, shooting a single photon through a split aperture.

          Cute quote, but it's dead wrong.

          Also, I fully expect trump not to be impeached (this time at least) the goal isn't to remove him here, the goal is to get these assholes to sign their names to his bad behavior, and to slow down congress, preventing republicans from getting legislation to the floor.

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          • S [email protected]

            Fillibuster, as it works in the US specifically, is a process to delay a proposed bill/law from going to a final vote, or a vote on approving or denying an ammendment to a proposed bill/law.

            Articles of Impeachment, to my knowledge, are an entirely different thing, that follow different rules than a proposed law.

            So... filibustering is more like kiting around your last unit in Starcraft as long as possible, even though your entire base has already been destroyed.

            Spamming constant repeated articles of impeachment would be more like constantly spamming zerglings.

            Theoretically, it would be a new ... thing the Congress has to deal with, every single time... but again, no one has ever, in American history, tried to do that, so I legitimately do not know if it even is concievably a strategy.

            But uh, unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures, eh?

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            If you lose all your buildings you lose... It's more like hiding your command center in a corner of the map and waiting for your opponent to find and kill it...

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            • B [email protected]

              Rolling dice, flipping a coin, shooting a single photon through a split aperture.

              Cute quote, but it's dead wrong.

              Also, I fully expect trump not to be impeached (this time at least) the goal isn't to remove him here, the goal is to get these assholes to sign their names to his bad behavior, and to slow down congress, preventing republicans from getting legislation to the floor.

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              #62

              Oh yeah like the last 4 times we got those names. This is a waste of time. You know it and just don't want to admit it.

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              • S [email protected]

                Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                This is a developing story and will be updated.

                Round 3.

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                #63

                I think this is dumb— not because he shouldn’t do it— or that it shouldn’t be illegal— but all the presidents since Bush Jr have used the same vague authorizations for fighting terrorism to justify strikes all over the Middle East and Africa— so there is precedent even if stupid precedent. Instead congress should just rescind those articles and take back their war declaration power. Except that they would also have to revoke the 1950s document that lets the president basically carry on a war for 60 days… it’s stupid, but I don’t see impeachment for this offense possible and just weakens the threat for the future. But maybe it’s already toast.

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                • S [email protected]

                  Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                  "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                  "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                  This is a developing story and will be updated.

                  Round 3.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #64

                  I think this is dumb— not because he shouldn’t do it— or that it shouldn’t be illegal— but all the presidents since Bush Jr have used the same vague authorizations for fighting terrorism to justify strikes all over the Middle East and Africa— so there is precedent even if stupid precedent. Instead congress should just rescind those articles and take back their war declaration power. Except that they would also have to revoke the 1950s document that lets the president basically carry on a war for 60 days… it’s stupid, but I don’t see impeachment for this offense possible and just weakens the threat for the future. But maybe it’s already toast.

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                  • N [email protected]

                    They had a mechanism called a filibuster. But congress changed the rules on that a while back because it was wasting everyone's time. Ironic right?

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                    #65

                    I think each resolution would have to have substantially different accusations, can’t be for the same thing. but that shouldn’t be a problem

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                      "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                      "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                      This is a developing story and will be updated.

                      Round 3.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #66

                      Put him in a bigger peach this time so he can't get out

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                      • S [email protected]

                        I think you are talking about when they tried to bring up impeachment last month.

                        Unless... you have a source from within like the last 3 or 4 hours of a bunch of them saying that for this current attempt.

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                        #67

                        Yeah, it's been posted. The vote took less than 2 hours. 128 dems voted to table it without discussion.

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                        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          He's already been impeached and it didn't accomplish shit. He needs to be deposed.

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                          He has already been impeached twice.

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                            Did you make this? This is a really nice reference and is pretty much what I was thinking, well done.

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                            • C [email protected]

                              "full attendance"

                              The fact that some 300 people with the best salaries and most prestigious jobs in the country can't be presumed to all attend their job is completely incredible to me. Especially on occasions of such importance such as a presidential impeachment.

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                              You've never worked with people because getting every single person to show up at any workplace every day is next to impossible.

                              People get wasted the night before, or they get sick, or they need to be there for their family, or they get hurt. Life happens.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                                "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                                "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                                This is a developing story and will be updated.

                                Round 3.

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                                How many similar articles to this has there been since he took office? Nothings going to happen. He’s above the law.

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                                • E [email protected]

                                  nobel prize withdrawal for breakfast, impeachment for lunch, ??? for dinner

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                                  Yes, 3 fish hooks for dinner, excellent suggestion.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                                    "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                                    "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                                    This is a developing story and will be updated.

                                    Round 3.

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                                    #73

                                    Impeachment is meaningless whether you like it or not. Resist and get this guy the fuck out

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      You've never worked with people because getting every single person to show up at any workplace every day is next to impossible.

                                      People get wasted the night before, or they get sick, or they need to be there for their family, or they get hurt. Life happens.

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                                      Yeah, while I understand and agree with the sentiment... If you have 300 people and on average somebody gets sick once a year for 2 days... You're going to have to hit some lotto style stats that they all don't lineup together to get a clear day of 100% attendance. Now realize that normal is 2-4 times a year... not just once. It's hard to corral that many people and get them all in on the same day available without some sort of conflict, sick days alone. Forget all the other stuff, birthdays, births, funerals, etc...

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                                        "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                                        "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                                        This is a developing story and will be updated.

                                        Round 3.

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                                        #75

                                        No he doesn't. His yes men and women in Congress won't ever let that happen.

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                                        • N [email protected]

                                          Did you make this? This is a really nice reference and is pretty much what I was thinking, well done.

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                                          Not the person you asked, but I'm a fan of Imgflip's MemeGenerator: https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

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