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  • E [email protected]

    nobel prize withdrawal for breakfast, impeachment for lunch, ??? for dinner

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    Phase 3: Profit

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      Fetterman is a fucking turncoat bitch

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      I think if you throw that term around that actually diminishes the severity of what impeachment is really reserved for.

      He's selling the Republican playbook

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        Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

        "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

        "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

        This is a developing story and will be updated.

        Round 3.

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        #23

        What's this? The barons are angry that the king has ignored them?

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          What's this? The barons are angry that the king has ignored them?

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          #24

          No, they're good at acting, though.

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            Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

            "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

            "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

            This is a developing story and will be updated.

            Round 3.

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            • N [email protected]

              "It was just a prank, guys."

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              ‘Negotiating tactic’

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              • M [email protected]

                No, they're good at acting, though.

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                #27

                It all depends. People start acting funny when you ACTUALLY usurp power from their fiefdoms.

                I would say taking away the ability of the robbers to blow shit up without their approval qualifies as such. They want to use the big guns too, and Frump doesn't want to share the toys.

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                • E [email protected]

                  nobel prize withdrawal for breakfast, impeachment for lunch, ??? for dinner

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                  #28

                  I'm going with 'assasinated by Mossad for dinner', mostly for the lulz, just gotta fully embrace the raw chaos clownshow timeline we live in.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Hey, infamous is better than being forgotten. At least according to the egomaniac

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                    #29

                    people with narcissism crave attention whether it’s good or bad

                    either way their existence is validated

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                      Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                      "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                      "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                      This is a developing story and will be updated.

                      Round 3.

                      magnetosphere@fedia.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but hasn’t the U.S. gone to war without congressional approval a bunch of times?

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                      • O [email protected]

                        Let's keep doing it until it sticks. He'll get angrier and angrier every time. At some point he'll slip.

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                        #31

                        I mean, 'flood the zone' of Congress with constant impeachment proposals would at least be some kind of stalling/stonewalling tactic, which is preferable to the uh, mostly lot of nothing other than crying 90% of the Dems have been doing thus far.

                        I... don't know if there is any mechanism in Congress that acts as a cool down timer for how often you could try that... I think it just has to be a new House Rep each time?

                        I don't know. Is anyone of sufficient House Parliamentarian style wonkery to be able to chime in on that?

                        I uh, I think we are past the stage of 'but JD would be even worse!' at this point, but of course, give it 24 to 48 hours and there'll be an Atlantic or NYT op-ed making that exact argument.

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                          Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                          "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                          "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                          This is a developing story and will be updated.

                          Round 3.

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                          Oh no, the twice-impeached president might be impeached again? That'll teach him!

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                            "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                            "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                            This is a developing story and will be updated.

                            Round 3.

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                            Waiting for the handful of weird Maga trolls on here to comment. It's always funny to see them argue "Commander in Chief" means unlimited authority to do anything with the military.

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                            • E [email protected]

                              nobel prize withdrawal for breakfast, impeachment for lunch, ??? for dinner

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                              #34

                              Arrested and dragged before the ICC for dinner. He‘s on the way to The Hague anyway so why not?

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                              • magnetosphere@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                                Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but hasn’t the U.S. gone to war without congressional approval a bunch of times?

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                                Yeah the US hasn't offically gone to war since WWII and plenty of military actions haven't had any sort of congressional approval at all.

                                For all the bollocks Trump has done, this one actually has a very strong precedent and will go nowhere (as hilarious as it would be for something serval presidents have done before him to be the thing to finally bring him down).

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                                  Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                                  "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                                  "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                                  This is a developing story and will be updated.

                                  Round 3.

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                                  Oh look were trying again for the fourth? Fifth? Time. It'll definitely with this time.

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                                    Fetterman is a fucking turncoat bitch

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                                    Quote for reference:

                                    Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, told Fox News' America's Newsroom: "He's been impeached twice, and now he's still our president as well now too. It's not going anywhere, and I don't think that's helpful. I think if you throw that term around that actually diminishes the severity of what impeachment is really reserved for."

                                    You know what else diminishes the severity of impeachment? Not impeaching impeachable conduct.

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                                      #38

                                      Yes, no, technically, its complicated, because we just... don't call it a 'war' if most of Congress doesn't have a problem with whatever military action the President has unilaterally directed.

                                      Russia has 'special military operation', we have 'temporary, low level peacekeeping operations'... that then become the Vietnam War and last for over a decade... or... Congress has authorized the use of force to go get the Taliban in Afghanistan, but also uh, we're gonna stay there 20 years, with no clear or coherent goal or strategy.

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

                                      Basically, uh, War is supposed to only be declared by the Congress, and then the President is supposed to execute said war.

                                      But also, the Preisdent can kinda sorta do some limited military actions without first having a formal Declaration of War... and there isn't total agreement on what exactly those limits are... basically, almost everytime this happens in American history, it nearly causes a Constitutional crisis, or at the very least, a whole bunch of vigorous debate, and there really is no consistent framework or metric for evaluating whether or not the President did something not allowed, at least when looking backwards at history.

                                      It becomes both a political and legal shitshow every time.

                                      And also, Congress can... authorize the use of military force, with strings attached, limitations... but somehow that is technically not a war, and also there's no actual mechanism for tugging on those strings and actually enforcing those limitations.

                                      It's all very straightforward you see, rofl.

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        nobel prize withdrawal for breakfast, impeachment for lunch, ??? for dinner

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                                        Didn't know they gave awards for breakfast excellence

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                                          Representative Al Green, a Texas Democrat, officially introduced new Articles of Impeachment against President Donald Trump on Tuesday.

                                          "In starting his illegal and unconstitutional war with Iran without the constitutionally mandated consent of Congress or appropriate notice to Congress, President Trump acted in direct violation of the War Powers Clause of the Constitution," Green's articles state.

                                          "President Trump has devolved and continues to devolve American democracy into authoritarianism by disregarding the separation of powers and now usurping congressional war powers."

                                          This is a developing story and will be updated.

                                          Round 3.

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                                          will he be free from any meaningful consequence again

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