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I may swear like a pirate, but I'm a fucking PRINCIPLED pirate

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  • stalinwolf@lemmy.caS [email protected]

    I feel like the days of pearl clutching over profanity are on their way out. There is always a time and a place for it, but I grew up hearing "fuck" come out of my drunken relatives every other word. My parents didn't say it, and they didn't let me say it, but the only real weight the word ever had was that it was cool and exclusive to adults.

    One of the biggest culture shocks I had when moving from the US to Canada was how much more laid back everyone is up here over profanity in general. Almost everyone uses it, very few people (save for maybe the elderly) get uppity when they hear it, and I've heard it used freely on FM radio many times. I still think it's trashy to fly a FUCK TRUDEAU flag or decal on your car for everyone to see, but nobodies up here clutching pearls. They just think you're a dick.

    Not sure why it's still such a big deal in many parts of the US.

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    What's interesting is, traditionally in language, once forbidden words got ran out, there were still other bad words left to enter the lexicon. "Damn" used to be a genuine curse. My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

    What's next? There's no new forbidden words. Nothing left in the back of the store. Our ability to run through words outpaced our ability to make bad ones.

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      It's a word also used to refer to a car transmission.

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      Or the landing of a jump.

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        Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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        Swear words are ok in my house. Slurs are not ok ever

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          Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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          True and fantastic (especially if your community/family are/were hateful bigots!), but one should still strive not to be a potty-mouth. It's crude and unbecoming, idk, at least to me. It's the equivalent of being a bit stinky (or very, depending on how much one swears) IMO: sure, it might not be immoral, whatever, but you could make the smallest of efforts and not offend my senses... 🤷

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            Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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            Being a pirate means taking from assholes who do not deserve it. If you take from anyone you're an asshole yourself.

            I pirate AAA games because they do not deserve my money, as the poor gameplay vallue doesn't exceed 2 hours. I pay for indie games because they deliver, it's worth my money.

            I used to be in the navy, went on deployment to Somalia several times to hunt pirates. I deeply regret it. Because althoug they have no choice and do what they do because of what us western countries did to them, they do horrible things to others who do not deserve it. But in the end we as a rich western society are the cause for their despair. So we are responsible for what they are forced to do to others. I ended up with PTSD.

            You can be a pirate with principles. Especially when mega corps and billionaires are forcing society into submission, forcing people to work to just to survive and/or force people to be someone they are not.

            Fight the oppression. Piracy isn't a crime, it's symptom of a crime. Also, these days you do not own the media you purchase. It's not theft when you steal something which you cannot own it when you purchase it.

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              Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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              you're the coolest kid in school!

              edit : you haven't said whether you're against war and world hunger and I have to say I'm a bit concerned

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                Being a pirate means taking from assholes who do not deserve it. If you take from anyone you're an asshole yourself.

                I pirate AAA games because they do not deserve my money, as the poor gameplay vallue doesn't exceed 2 hours. I pay for indie games because they deliver, it's worth my money.

                I used to be in the navy, went on deployment to Somalia several times to hunt pirates. I deeply regret it. Because althoug they have no choice and do what they do because of what us western countries did to them, they do horrible things to others who do not deserve it. But in the end we as a rich western society are the cause for their despair. So we are responsible for what they are forced to do to others. I ended up with PTSD.

                You can be a pirate with principles. Especially when mega corps and billionaires are forcing society into submission, forcing people to work to just to survive and/or force people to be someone they are not.

                Fight the oppression. Piracy isn't a crime, it's symptom of a crime. Also, these days you do not own the media you purchase. It's not theft when you steal something which you cannot own it when you purchase it.

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                #111

                You can be a pirate with principles.

                On the topic, what was the reasoning of the Houthis attacks on the red sea shipping lanes?

                It was because they are totally crazy deranged terrorist villains from an 80s action movie right?...or like monomaniacal greed right?

                ...wait hold on.. checks notes ........... are we the badies?

                shakes cobwebs out of head

                Wait no, that can't be right if we were the badies it would be bad like really bad after all the shit we have done claiming we were righteous about it... like oh no, no no no no I am gonna just stop thinking about it ok?

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                  You can be a pirate with principles.

                  On the topic, what was the reasoning of the Houthis attacks on the red sea shipping lanes?

                  It was because they are totally crazy deranged terrorist villains from an 80s action movie right?...or like monomaniacal greed right?

                  ...wait hold on.. checks notes ........... are we the badies?

                  shakes cobwebs out of head

                  Wait no, that can't be right if we were the badies it would be bad like really bad after all the shit we have done claiming we were righteous about it... like oh no, no no no no I am gonna just stop thinking about it ok?

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                  I wasn't there during those attacks, I left service a while ago, I wa only there because of the Somali pirates.

                  Things aren't black and white. There are no good sides, only different grades of bad when it comes to armed conflict in the middle east. People are driven to extremism due to oppression, hunger, misery, etc and become bad themselves by disbanding human dignity. Who is to blame?

                  I know I do not stand for fighting pirates in Somalia. Although I got PTSD due to what I saw them doing, which head horrible. The whole situation is fucked up, it's not onto me to judge or intervene. We as the west are partially responsible, I don't see fighting the problems we created with violence as a solution, only as fighting symptoms without focusing on the cause.

                  The Houthis attacks are also a product of a greater problem. Yemen is a giant mess for many years with countless victims. We don't care so just leave everyone to deal with it themselves. We only start to care when it harms our trade routes. And we don't help Yemen and it's people to solve their war, we fight a symptom so our trade routes are secure.

                  It's the dame with piracy in general. There's piracy all over the world. The Somali pirates are mild compared to others, like on the African west coast or near Indonesia. But we only care about piracy when it harms us, like our trade routes.

                  You become super rich at a cost. Not by honesty. There are always others who suffer. We, the rich west (EU, Brittain, US, but also Russia, India, China etc.) enjoy enormous amounts of luxury, but developing countries are paying the cost for that.

                  We claim we have morals and are more civilized than others. We condemn Russia for their war crimes everywhere for example. Yet we show we are just as bad by supporting the worst war crimes of this century (by far) by continuing to support Israel.

                  I rolled into service due to a financial crisis and my own issues (autism, never recognized so never finished school, kicked out by my parents, nearly ended up on the streets because I couldn't get work, so I enlisted) and becasue I couldn't handle change that well (autism) I stayed and supported a system I oppose.

                  I now know better and fight for human rights, against mega corps, for LGBTQAI+ rights, against fascism, racism, nazism and against fake news and propaganda (and anything that goes against my believes). It kills me, as I feel helpless but doing nothing kills me even more.

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                    But then you wouldn’t be judging the person solely for wearing a red hat, but for what the red hat implies, no?

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                    IDC; I am judging them.

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                      Asking if people could spot the antichrist has always seemed paradoxical to me. Isn't the antichrist's defining thing that he will deceive people into following him? Lost cause imo

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                      The goal of every single politician, sales person, [so many blanks] is to deceive.

                      The lesson in the Bible is to listen carefully, watch his actual actions.

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                        The world needs more 999

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                        Now that their comment is deleted, it looks twice as █████

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                          who is hyping up swear words lol

                          thought this was interesting, swearing can basically keep you from being a fucking pussy apparently

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                          This phenomenon is particularly strong in people who do not use such words on a regular basis

                          But you have to keep it for the bad day

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                            What's interesting is, traditionally in language, once forbidden words got ran out, there were still other bad words left to enter the lexicon. "Damn" used to be a genuine curse. My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

                            What's next? There's no new forbidden words. Nothing left in the back of the store. Our ability to run through words outpaced our ability to make bad ones.

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                            My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

                            I killed a lot of people, many probably innocent, but I'm a good person cause I never swore!

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                              Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                              not a shitpost

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                                So it's ok for your kids to use the words but you just don't swear in front of them? Isn't that just being a passive parent?

                                We don't judge other parents for the choices they make, and in fact we teach our kids to not swear in front of other kids. But that's no different then speech used with friends and speech used in a professional setting. Everyone adjusts their speech by setting.

                                We do teach not just by example but by also making sure they understand the meaning they are trying to convey. For ALL words. The difference between the meaning of racist words and non-disparaging swear words is an ocean. Swear words are really just regular words while racist words are meant to hurt someone. We don't allow any words that are meant to hurt, no matter what that word actually is.

                                To me using frak, heck, gosh, darn, etc is the exact same as the equivalent swear words.

                                Allowing swears also takes away their taboo nature. My wife's nephew was brought up the same way and was the only one in his friend group to NOT get in trouble for swearing at school. He knew the time and place.

                                To me, teaching to base language on the meaning and not word itself is the opposite of lazy.

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                                I don't teach them that it's ok to use bad words. I teach them there is a time and place for everything.

                                Which just does back to my original point. Killing in the name of self defense isn't ok but acceptable.

                                Ok and accepted are two different things. The fact that you haven't caught on to that and the fact that the producer of that meme thinks he's a good person for simply not being a racist bigot isn't the hot take you think it is.

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                                  It's a word also used to refer to a car transmission.

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                                  The word is
                                  ::: spoiler spoiler (mama said i cant say bad words)
                                  tranny
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                                    not a shitpost

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                                    IDK, it's pretty shit.

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                                      My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

                                      I killed a lot of people, many probably innocent, but I'm a good person cause I never swore!

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                                      Not quite. It's that he was flying a plane and being shot at 6 days a week, and yet still didn't need to jump up to a new bad word. Whatever he already knew is the language he used.

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                                        What's interesting is, traditionally in language, once forbidden words got ran out, there were still other bad words left to enter the lexicon. "Damn" used to be a genuine curse. My grandfather survived WWII and proudly told be people of all the bombs he dropped, he never dropped the F-bomb.

                                        What's next? There's no new forbidden words. Nothing left in the back of the store. Our ability to run through words outpaced our ability to make bad ones.

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                                        What’s next?

                                        "Moist".

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                                          The word is
                                          ::: spoiler spoiler (mama said i cant say bad words)
                                          tranny
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                                          It's a good job car mechanics and electricians use filthy language anyway, or they'd be in trouble.

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