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I may swear like a pirate, but I'm a fucking PRINCIPLED pirate

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    Just because we're pirates doesn't mean we don't have standards! Fucking YARRRGH me mateys!

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    Actual golden age pirates tended to be disproportionately queer and gender transgressive, serve on extremely multiethnic crews, and maje policy/decisions democratically.

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      Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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      ... honestly, I don't think anyone has ever explicitly said to me (especially growing up) to not use slurs - you just don't use them bcs they obviously harm people, basic empathy & stuff (if the greed of just living in a better society isn't enough).

      ... but there sure have been a fucktone of folk telling me not to use some arbitrary "bad words" they deemed vulgar. No logical reason given, just random societal oppression.

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        Many golden age pirates were actually kind of like that

        Big multiethnic crews. Lots of gayness, transgressive gender identities, liberatory politics. It was extremely punk, but with very very slightly better music and substantially worse booze.

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        Any fun historical sources you can recommend?

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          Any fun historical sources you can recommend?

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          Graeber really gets unto the mess of it all in 'pirate enlightenment: the real libertalia'

          If you want something much less complicated and academic, i think the podcast 'cool people who did cool stuff' has a few episodes on it.

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            Graeber really gets unto the mess of it all in 'pirate enlightenment: the real libertalia'

            If you want something much less complicated and academic, i think the podcast 'cool people who did cool stuff' has a few episodes on it.

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            Thanks for the answer! And I love Margaret, good podcast :3

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              Thanks for the answer! And I love Margaret, good podcast :3

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              Theres some more crunchy stuff i remember but i can't think of where i read it, sorry. The academic stuff all kind of blurs. Except for a few who could serioudly wrote like Graeber and Foucault.

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                ... honestly, I don't think anyone has ever explicitly said to me (especially growing up) to not use slurs - you just don't use them bcs they obviously harm people, basic empathy & stuff (if the greed of just living in a better society isn't enough).

                ... but there sure have been a fucktone of folk telling me not to use some arbitrary "bad words" they deemed vulgar. No logical reason given, just random societal oppression.

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                I had an aunt Julia growing up and my parents sat me down when I was four or five and they heard me calling her aunt Ju to explain that “Jew” wasn’t inherently a slur, but it could be offensive to people if I just shouted it randomly after my aunt. Based on that, I suspect they would have talked to me about slurs if it had come up, but I never used them.

                I did once talk to my grandmother at around age eleven about seeing a huge Afro and she asked if I meant the person or the hairstyle. I complained to my mom about her being racist and she set me straight. Both of my my grandparents taught at colleges in the greater Boston area around the time they were integrated and my grandmother insisted on renting a room in their house out to black students who couldn’t get housing otherwise (for only the cost of meals) throughout my mom’s whole childhood and ended friendships with people who had a problem with it. She was just from another time and didn’t consider “Afro” to be an offensive term, probably because she was involved in civil rights through the seventies, when that was used by lots of black groups as a term of empowerment

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                  I had an aunt Julia growing up and my parents sat me down when I was four or five and they heard me calling her aunt Ju to explain that “Jew” wasn’t inherently a slur, but it could be offensive to people if I just shouted it randomly after my aunt. Based on that, I suspect they would have talked to me about slurs if it had come up, but I never used them.

                  I did once talk to my grandmother at around age eleven about seeing a huge Afro and she asked if I meant the person or the hairstyle. I complained to my mom about her being racist and she set me straight. Both of my my grandparents taught at colleges in the greater Boston area around the time they were integrated and my grandmother insisted on renting a room in their house out to black students who couldn’t get housing otherwise (for only the cost of meals) throughout my mom’s whole childhood and ended friendships with people who had a problem with it. She was just from another time and didn’t consider “Afro” to be an offensive term, probably because she was involved in civil rights through the seventies, when that was used by lots of black groups as a term of empowerment

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                  Thx for sharing, that was a lovely story/slice of life.

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                    You know, let us be honest for five minutes.

                    Psychology has shown that we have biases against anyone who doesn't look like us. It's just survival 101 from not so ancient times.

                    So maybe your parents had theses biases, unconsciently. Maybe even, they have been raised in a society which was racist, by definition. If they have lived anytime before the eighties, things were really rough (not that it's not right now, but it was something else...)

                    Now, let's just say that at their core, they were racist. So what ? Is it really important ? They have shown you how to behave, what is right and what is not. They have worked to better themselves, so that is the only thing that should matter.

                    Because, in the grand scheme of things, your parents would have told you from age two : do not shit in your pants, and they would have done the same. With dementia, maybe at some point they even forgot that one rule so... Being racist is excusable, because -and I'm sorry- they were not themselves in their final hours.

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                    I appreciate and understand your perspective, but I want to clarify some context:

                    This was my dad's mom, so my grandparents. Had they been my parents and I'd known them at the age at which they raised me, then I'd immediately know how they raised their kids. But since this was my grandmother who raised my dad, it left me wondering what kind of parents my dad had. Was my dad a non-judgmental person in spite of his parents?

                    And the answer was, "no." He learned to cast aside prejudices from my grandmother's sick right-cross. It was mostly that kind of revelation that I needed to feel my catharsis.

                    (Added context: my dad is dead and I never heard that story from him. He died before my grandmother did, so I never got the opportunity to ask him about what her views on race were when he was a child.)

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                      Speak for yourself, I identify as a swearwolf because of my filthy fucking language

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                      Watch your fucking mouth. I didn't raise a werewolf to talk that kinda shit!

                      Do as I say, not say as I say, fuckface

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                        ... honestly, I don't think anyone has ever explicitly said to me (especially growing up) to not use slurs - you just don't use them bcs they obviously harm people, basic empathy & stuff (if the greed of just living in a better society isn't enough).

                        ... but there sure have been a fucktone of folk telling me not to use some arbitrary "bad words" they deemed vulgar. No logical reason given, just random societal oppression.

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                        They're the no-no word because someone used them to hurt someone else.
                        I don't know what "removed" means, I assume it's black in spanish or something, it doesn't make sense on it's own.
                        It's just a word that people used to hurt other people, so we can't use them.
                        Literally, "we can't have nice things" applied to word, although, whatever that word means, I guess we have other words that mean black so, ok, whatever, we still have plenty of other 6 letter words so "meh".

                        Would be nice if people stopped being such shitheads and using group dominance to subjugate other groups.

                        I think instead of attacking words, we should attack the mechanic behind them ?
                        If the slur comes out it's already too late, the dominance play has already infected them.

                        It has to be defused before they even say it. Find why people are being so shit, it's not just a reaction, it's not the word itself making them do it.

                        There a reason why they become nasty slur-spewing goblins.

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                          Watch your fucking mouth. I didn't raise a werewolf to talk that kinda shit!

                          Do as I say, not say as I say, fuckface

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                          Fuck that, you're not my real dad! Plus, I learned it from you, fartfucker.

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                            Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                            I will insult people for how they dress, specifically people who were clothes with Confederate flag shirts. I once saw someone with a confederate flag shirt that said "Try burning this one" my grandmother saw me staring and told me no. Yes I was working out the logistics of how to set someone on fire, I took the shirt as a challenge.

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                              My daughter said "oh shit" as her first curse word. Seems appropriate for the times

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                                Who is this creepy creature in the distance?

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                                  Who is this creepy creature in the distance?

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                                  Logzilla

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                                    Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                                    Why wouldnt you call someone an illegal immigrant if thats what they are?
                                    Being a "human being" isnt a get out of jail free card. If you drink and drive, youre a drink driver. If you rape someone, youre a rapist. If you murder someone, youre a murderer. If you steal, youre a thief. You move countries, you are an immigrant. If you do it without falling the rules of the country you moved to, youre an illegal immigrant.

                                    Why the fuck are you people always over correcting???

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                                      Who is this creepy creature in the distance?

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                                      682 got loose again

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                                        some people objectively are illegal immigrants. apparantly facts are racist now

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                                          I will insult people for how they dress, specifically people who were clothes with Confederate flag shirts. I once saw someone with a confederate flag shirt that said "Try burning this one" my grandmother saw me staring and told me no. Yes I was working out the logistics of how to set someone on fire, I took the shirt as a challenge.

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                                          shouldnt u be looking for the water chip? the vault really needs it

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