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I may swear like a pirate, but I'm a fucking PRINCIPLED pirate

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    Why wouldnt you call someone an illegal immigrant if thats what they are?
    Being a "human being" isnt a get out of jail free card. If you drink and drive, youre a drink driver. If you rape someone, youre a rapist. If you murder someone, youre a murderer. If you steal, youre a thief. You move countries, you are an immigrant. If you do it without falling the rules of the country you moved to, youre an illegal immigrant.

    Why the fuck are you people always over correcting???

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    Given the context he's talking about judging people by their looks. You cannot tell just by looking at someone whether or not their immigration status is legal. You need more information than just their apparent ethnicity.

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      Who is this creepy creature in the distance?

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      Definitely not something OP's kids will ever know the truth about.

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        Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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        I hope it doesn't take too much effort.

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          some people objectively are illegal immigrants. apparantly facts are racist now

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          I cant believe i have to explain this but...

          There's lots of ways you can refer to people. Some are respectful, some are not.

          This might shock you but some parents teach their kids to be respectful of others. Avoiding labelling people in ways they might not appreciate is a good start.

          It may be a "fact" that someone is an "illegal immigrant" but I'm sure you can see that term is intended to portray the person in a specific way.

          Its also a fact that such a person is an undocumented migrant trying to feed their family, or maybe even an asylum seekers fleeing persecution.

          So yes, representing facts in a racist way is racist. Well done.

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          • track_shovel@slrpnk.netT [email protected]

            Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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            A couple of nights ago I was in the car with my 8 year old daughter and Killing In The Name Of by Rage Against the Machine came on... my instinct was to skip to the next song, but then I thought "No, this is a song she needs to hear" because if she has questions she knows that she can ask.

            A couple of songs later, it was Closer by NIN... I immediately skipped to the next song.

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            • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksV [email protected]

              I will insult people for how they dress, specifically people who were clothes with Confederate flag shirts. I once saw someone with a confederate flag shirt that said "Try burning this one" my grandmother saw me staring and told me no. Yes I was working out the logistics of how to set someone on fire, I took the shirt as a challenge.

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              Oh no! The evil people have all the commercially available flame throwers!

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                Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                Unpopular opinion: profanity is massively overhyped and people that excessively swear tend to irk me. There are so many ways to passionately express emotion, at least in the English language, yet so many are fascinated with only a few. The word "fuck" in particular loses all gravitas after hearing it 150 times a day for most of my life. I've had to stop watching certain shows because swearing felt so excessively forced to perhaps come across as edgy, and it broke all immersion for me.

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                • jcs@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  Unpopular opinion: profanity is massively overhyped and people that excessively swear tend to irk me. There are so many ways to passionately express emotion, at least in the English language, yet so many are fascinated with only a few. The word "fuck" in particular loses all gravitas after hearing it 150 times a day for most of my life. I've had to stop watching certain shows because swearing felt so excessively forced to perhaps come across as edgy, and it broke all immersion for me.

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                  Yeah the only environment it seems to fit is the military which sort of makes sense for how often you get smoked long before you ever see combat or even just active duty.

                  And even then most military people have a cleaned up citizen dictionary for whenever they're not with their buddies.

                  Anything outside of that just seems excessive and vulgar for no apparent gain or reason. Even funny and wildly profane comments online don't use expletives as much as some people do IRL.

                  There has to be wordplay and emphasis to make it justied (or funny like the gorilla warfare copypasta), otherwise it just comes of the same as ending every single sentence or phrase with "lol".

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                  • jcs@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                    Unpopular opinion: profanity is massively overhyped and people that excessively swear tend to irk me. There are so many ways to passionately express emotion, at least in the English language, yet so many are fascinated with only a few. The word "fuck" in particular loses all gravitas after hearing it 150 times a day for most of my life. I've had to stop watching certain shows because swearing felt so excessively forced to perhaps come across as edgy, and it broke all immersion for me.

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                    who is hyping up swear words lol

                    thought this was interesting, swearing can basically keep you from being a fucking pussy apparently

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                      682 got loose again

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                      The world needs more 999

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                        Given the context he's talking about judging people by their looks. You cannot tell just by looking at someone whether or not their immigration status is legal. You need more information than just their apparent ethnicity.

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                        Dont know how you got that, chief. The context is "human being", nothing else. Every time these insane fuckwits posts something unhinged, theres always people ready with the excuses. You can not like the laws, thats fine. But if you enter a country illegally, an illegal immigrant is what you are.

                        If the guy wants to say that calling brown people illegal just because theyre brown, well, I think he all ready did. As that would full under the racial slur.

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                          Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                          I will definitely judge people that say they love trump. Grow up losers, he's not wite Jesus. If anything he's orange satan

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                            Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                            Do de have a im14andthisisdeep equivalent community on Lemmy?

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                            • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                              Do de have a im14andthisisdeep equivalent community on Lemmy?

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                              You best start believing in lemmy shit posts, you're in one.

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                                I will definitely judge people that say they love trump. Grow up losers, he's not wite Jesus. If anything he's orange satan

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                                He fits every single definition of the Antichrist with little reaching.

                                Down to the head wound and the mark of the best upon their forehead.

                                https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  A couple of nights ago I was in the car with my 8 year old daughter and Killing In The Name Of by Rage Against the Machine came on... my instinct was to skip to the next song, but then I thought "No, this is a song she needs to hear" because if she has questions she knows that she can ask.

                                  A couple of songs later, it was Closer by NIN... I immediately skipped to the next song.

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                                  Dad, is it true that "Those who work forces are the same who burn crosses?

                                  And why would he "just kill a man?"

                                  ?

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                                    I cant believe i have to explain this but...

                                    There's lots of ways you can refer to people. Some are respectful, some are not.

                                    This might shock you but some parents teach their kids to be respectful of others. Avoiding labelling people in ways they might not appreciate is a good start.

                                    It may be a "fact" that someone is an "illegal immigrant" but I'm sure you can see that term is intended to portray the person in a specific way.

                                    Its also a fact that such a person is an undocumented migrant trying to feed their family, or maybe even an asylum seekers fleeing persecution.

                                    So yes, representing facts in a racist way is racist. Well done.

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                                    I mean, the words themselves are not an insult, it’s the context they are used in that make them an insult. If you don’t insult people then you don’t have to worry about what words are insults and what aren’t.

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                                      Yarhaarrharrr ye facist curr

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                                      The post suggests that profanity is harmless because it is not as destructive as slurs or dehumanizing language. That comparison is flawed. Swearing may not carry the same moral weight as racism or bigotry, but that does not make it “good.” An act being less wrong than another does not make it right. Killing in self-defense is not celebrated as morally pure, it is tolerated as the lesser evil in a tragic circumstance. Likewise, profanity may be tolerated as less harmful than hatred, but it still coarsens language and weakens self-discipline. To hold children to a higher standard, one should avoid both the greater and the lesser corruptions of speech.

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                                        Unpopular opinion: profanity is massively overhyped and people that excessively swear tend to irk me. There are so many ways to passionately express emotion, at least in the English language, yet so many are fascinated with only a few. The word "fuck" in particular loses all gravitas after hearing it 150 times a day for most of my life. I've had to stop watching certain shows because swearing felt so excessively forced to perhaps come across as edgy, and it broke all immersion for me.

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                                        Ay switch to cunt. It really has a lot of "gravitas"

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                                          I cant believe i have to explain this but...

                                          There's lots of ways you can refer to people. Some are respectful, some are not.

                                          This might shock you but some parents teach their kids to be respectful of others. Avoiding labelling people in ways they might not appreciate is a good start.

                                          It may be a "fact" that someone is an "illegal immigrant" but I'm sure you can see that term is intended to portray the person in a specific way.

                                          Its also a fact that such a person is an undocumented migrant trying to feed their family, or maybe even an asylum seekers fleeing persecution.

                                          So yes, representing facts in a racist way is racist. Well done.

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                                          I'm sure you can see that term is intended to portray the person in a specific way.

                                          No, it's just a normal term, intended to convey that the person is an immigrant, and that they didn't follow the legal process. Those are just the basic facts about that person's situation with respect to the law. The legality of their immigration status is often the focus of the discussion. For example, it's easy to take advantage of illegal immigrants because they might be afraid to go to the police due to their immigration status.

                                          The term has been in use for almost 150 years. Sometimes clinical labels become pejorative over time. But, it doesn't seem like that's the case here. A right-winger is much more likely to say "illegals" or "illegal aliens", if not just using some slur like "wetback".

                                          Alternative terms that have been proposed are much less precise. For example, "undocumented migrant" is horrible. Not only is "migrant" less specific than "immigrant", because immigration is a subset of migration, "undocumented" is much less accurate than "illegal". Most people in a country illegally have documentation, they have passports, birth certificates, sometimes even local driver's licenses. The issue isn't that they lack documentation. The issue is that they aren't following the laws related to migration. Others like "undocumented noncitizen" or "undocumented American" are even worse. What does "American" even mean in that context? Is a fiercely loyal British person who is legally in the US on a work visa a "documented American"?

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