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Is there a way to reduce the number of AI generated websites that appear in search results?

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  • tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

    I don't have an answer. What I can tell you is that it is BAD. I pretty much can't find useful results post 2022/23

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    I just realized how freaking bad this was - especially on Reddit. I was doing a search for IPTV providers. I checked reddit first, since in the last that has been a reliable way for finding people recommending stuff, not just whatever is search engine optimized.

    Holy shit was it bad. Nearly every comment was AI slop. They all followed a very similar structure. Tons and tons of comments like:

    Appreciate the share! LunoTV is great — super affordable and has tons of channels. Definitely recommend checking it out.

    Appreciate the share! Xalvon IPTV offers tons of channels and the streaming has been really smooth on my devices. Good value overall.

    LunoTV has been great for me. Tons of channels, really affordable, and easy to set up.

    Luno TV has been great for me. Tons of channel selection is huge, and their app runs smoothly .

    We're seriously getting to a point where we won't be able to search for anything due to AI fake results.

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    • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

      I just realized how freaking bad this was - especially on Reddit. I was doing a search for IPTV providers. I checked reddit first, since in the last that has been a reliable way for finding people recommending stuff, not just whatever is search engine optimized.

      Holy shit was it bad. Nearly every comment was AI slop. They all followed a very similar structure. Tons and tons of comments like:

      Appreciate the share! LunoTV is great — super affordable and has tons of channels. Definitely recommend checking it out.

      Appreciate the share! Xalvon IPTV offers tons of channels and the streaming has been really smooth on my devices. Good value overall.

      LunoTV has been great for me. Tons of channels, really affordable, and easy to set up.

      Luno TV has been great for me. Tons of channel selection is huge, and their app runs smoothly .

      We're seriously getting to a point where we won't be able to search for anything due to AI fake results.

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      Did you find an iptv service? I've been thinkibg about getting one but whenever i look into i just find junk.

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      • F [email protected]

        Try uBlacklist, with these blocklists:

        # AI Spam
        https://raw.githubusercontent.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist/main/list_uBlacklist.txt
        # Copycat Sites
        https://raw.githubusercontent.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter/main/dist/other_format/uBlacklist/global.txt
        # SEO Spam & Junk
        https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NotaInutilis/Super-SEO-Spam-Suppressor/main/ublacklist.txt
        
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        #27

        Thanks for this! Been looking for something like it. I guess it just blocks the sites though, and doesn't block them appearing in search results?

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          I keep trying to find things like “making waffles from sour dough discard” and all the sites are the same: long meandering paragraphs full of links to other things on the site with dubious instructions.

          Considering at this point I can pretty much identify the type of site by looking at it; are there good extensions or search engines which might remove them from search results?

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          Sure there is, and I'll tell you all about it right after this meandering story about my grandmother growing up on a farm.

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          • F [email protected]

            I use Firefox with the udm14 extension for Google - gives me only the web results. No AI, no shopping, images, etc, only website results.

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            #29

            Plenty of websites are AI created, with more being created every hour, which I gather is what OP is talking about.

            And there isn't really any useful wait to filer those out, with only lots of profitable reasons for people to create more of them, and they will shortly be the complete death of the internet as we knew it.

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              Plenty of websites are AI created, with more being created every hour, which I gather is what OP is talking about.

              And there isn't really any useful wait to filer those out, with only lots of profitable reasons for people to create more of them, and they will shortly be the complete death of the internet as we knew it.

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              #30

              Oof.

              And I read it wrong like multiple times.

              Thank you

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                Thanks for this! Been looking for something like it. I guess it just blocks the sites though, and doesn't block them appearing in search results?

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                So uBlacklist actually removes sites specified in your subscribed rulesets from your search results.

                I found it helped out a lot on programming or tech support searches, as there's so many content mirrors and SEO spam sites for that domain.

                I also found that using search shortcuts has helped me reduce the need for the middle-man in a surprising amount of my searches. (e.g., “@w” for Wikipedia, “@g” for the Gentoo Wiki, “@git” for GitHub, “@p” for ProtonD, “@y” for YouTube, “@s” for Stack Overflow, et cetera)

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                  Did you find an iptv service? I've been thinkibg about getting one but whenever i look into i just find junk.

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                  Will report back. I used one a couple years ago, but it's since gone out of business. Like I said, yesterday I was having trouble sifting through all the slop to find an actual real answer. I signed up for a free trial of one and will respond if it's any good. I'm not holding my breath through.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    I keep trying to find things like “making waffles from sour dough discard” and all the sites are the same: long meandering paragraphs full of links to other things on the site with dubious instructions.

                    Considering at this point I can pretty much identify the type of site by looking at it; are there good extensions or search engines which might remove them from search results?

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                    #33

                    Recipe sites got bad long before AI thanks to SEO changes by Google that rewarded long, meandering text with repetitive term usage.

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                      I've switched to presearch.com long ago. No more tracking.

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                      #34

                      This is one of the neater concepts for blockchain I’ve seen, though the “PRE” coin is giving me very serious pause… I mean, I guess they have to make money, but still.

                      EDIT: I take this back. It's a plan for a neat concept that's not implemented yet... Even though the crypto token is.

                      The UI is pretty nice though.

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                        This is one of the neater concepts for blockchain I’ve seen, though the “PRE” coin is giving me very serious pause… I mean, I guess they have to make money, but still.

                        EDIT: I take this back. It's a plan for a neat concept that's not implemented yet... Even though the crypto token is.

                        The UI is pretty nice though.

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                        Just ignore that and don't make a wallet? I don't think they're making much money from the coin. Main revenu stream is the ads, which since recently got sneaked into the search results. But you'll get used to that quickly. Its search results are far better than the Duck's... 🙂

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                          Just ignore that and don't make a wallet? I don't think they're making much money from the coin. Main revenu stream is the ads, which since recently got sneaked into the search results. But you'll get used to that quickly. Its search results are far better than the Duck's... 🙂

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                          It seems like it's just a Google search fetcher now. I did a couple of searches side by side (both extremely niche, and popular SEO tests) and got almost identical results, down to the exact same ordering and forum posts, minus the YouTube and ad spam and such on Google.

                          That's... fine I guess? But it's nothing like what they advertise, and also something many services provide without muddying it.

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                            So uBlacklist actually removes sites specified in your subscribed rulesets from your search results.

                            I found it helped out a lot on programming or tech support searches, as there's so many content mirrors and SEO spam sites for that domain.

                            I also found that using search shortcuts has helped me reduce the need for the middle-man in a surprising amount of my searches. (e.g., “@w” for Wikipedia, “@g” for the Gentoo Wiki, “@git” for GitHub, “@p” for ProtonD, “@y” for YouTube, “@s” for Stack Overflow, et cetera)

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                            Is there one for DuckDuckGo?

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                              Is there one for DuckDuckGo?

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                              Yes it supports DDG and every major search engine (see: GitHub). You might have to manually give it permission first (like for specific SearXng instances), after which it'll work.

                              If you meant can you add DDG as a search shortcut, also yes.

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                                So uBlacklist actually removes sites specified in your subscribed rulesets from your search results.

                                I found it helped out a lot on programming or tech support searches, as there's so many content mirrors and SEO spam sites for that domain.

                                I also found that using search shortcuts has helped me reduce the need for the middle-man in a surprising amount of my searches. (e.g., “@w” for Wikipedia, “@g” for the Gentoo Wiki, “@git” for GitHub, “@p” for ProtonD, “@y” for YouTube, “@s” for Stack Overflow, et cetera)

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                                #39

                                Oh, cool. Thank you!

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                                  Update: for now it seems duck duck go’s date range filter is kinda a magic bullet for this type of thing. Set the range between 2010 and 2020 and the top results for a lot of temporally agnostic searches.

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                                  I don't think you're going back far enough. As others have pointed out, the problem existed due to seo stuff long before any LLM would see common usage, even in advertising rat races. Copy-pasted-extended descriptions became a problem around 2015, in my filtering journey. That's where I see real blogs (and just simple websites) start to be the majority of search results.

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                                  • dave@lemmy.nzD [email protected]

                                    Kagi does seem to cut out a lot of blogspam. I think Google is incentivised to send people to these sites with adwords ads on them.

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                                    You can also block any slopsite that makes it past so you only have to see it once.

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