I've hated donald trump since day one but then I saw this and thought....
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Yeah, every Mexican flag in all of these photos is NOT helping their cause any. Just looks like exactly what the GOP says it is, an invasion. I'm not even sure I've SEEN an American flag during all the protest photos going around.
I've seen a couple. They were getting burned. Nothing about it helps their cause any. They're declaring themselves enemies of America. Brain dead.
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Yeah, every Mexican flag in all of these photos is NOT helping their cause any. Just looks like exactly what the GOP says it is, an invasion. I'm not even sure I've SEEN an American flag during all the protest photos going around.
Why the fuck would the protectors wave the flag of the government that is oppressing them?
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This changes nothing. Spend that political capital lefties. Lord knows the people in washington refuse to. You couldnt force me at gun point to support the GOP.
This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).
They could be briefed on the bus.
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Yeah, every Mexican flag in all of these photos is NOT helping their cause any. Just looks like exactly what the GOP says it is, an invasion. I'm not even sure I've SEEN an American flag during all the protest photos going around.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Why tf would they carry an American flag at a protest. Thats stupid enough for me to assume you are a bot.
Fucking Crayondevourer indeed
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Yeah, every Mexican flag in all of these photos is NOT helping their cause any. Just looks like exactly what the GOP says it is, an invasion. I'm not even sure I've SEEN an American flag during all the protest photos going around.
If you weren’t there, what you mean is you haven’t been shown any American flags in the protests.
https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3lr7cw5wlas2j
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/immigration-protests-threaten-to-boil-over-in-los-angeles
Anyone who thinks there needs to be more American flags at the protests is welcome to bring them along with themselves. But sitting here criticizing the people actually off their ass and trying to protect democracy and their neighbors is bullshit.
Further, the right is literally never going to see resistance to Trump positively. Anyone who has been on the Fox News drip for the past 20 years is so unhinged that living in California is a crime to them. Asking people whose neighbors and family members have been kidnapped by the federal government to hide their heritage in their protests because it might offend people that already hate them and want them gone is ridiculous. At least if you want to keep those people as allies.
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I've seen a couple. They were getting burned. Nothing about it helps their cause any. They're declaring themselves enemies of America. Brain dead.
What’s brain dead is thinking people only have a right to free speech if it fits what you think their optics should be.
Anyone who wouldn’t support the burning of an American flag is an enemy of the US Constitution.
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Why tf would they carry an American flag at a protest. Thats stupid enough for me to assume you are a bot.
Fucking Crayondevourer indeed
I'm not sure what the hostility is for. The very thing the protesters are standing up for is the correct idea of America. The flag should be for real patriots who believe in the Constitution, not Trump and his insurrectionist ilk.
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Is that a wagon wheel?
No, it's the wheel of a burning vehicle that's closer than is obvious.
The hole for the lugs & nuts makes it apparent.
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This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).
They could be briefed on the bus.
Could also all be arrested or assaulted on the bus by the gestapo or their KKK supporters
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This changes nothing. Spend that political capital lefties. Lord knows the people in washington refuse to. You couldnt force me at gun point to support the GOP.
Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?
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I've seen a couple. They were getting burned. Nothing about it helps their cause any. They're declaring themselves enemies of America. Brain dead.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You've got little concept of what their cause is. Their cause is "you've pushed us to the breaking point and this society is no longer worth enabling, the social contract is dead." It's not to make the liberals sad, it's to hit everyone who wants to enable the system through disruption until their grievances are acknowledged. That's always been the method of even the most peaceful of successful protest movements. The entire point is to flex political power(and I'm not talking about voting here), not hope some liberal gives them thoughts and prayers.
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Muh flag
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm saying it has everything to do with optics.
Big angry crowds all flying Mexican flags just plays into their agenda. It looks like this isn't Americans fighting back against ICE, it looks like it's Mexicans fighting back against ICE IN America...
Which in turn, just makes it look (to the average American) that they're onto something, and that the Trump team is doing what they say they are.
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If you weren’t there, what you mean is you haven’t been shown any American flags in the protests.
https://bsky.app/profile/ddayen.bsky.social/post/3lr7cw5wlas2j
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/immigration-protests-threaten-to-boil-over-in-los-angeles
Anyone who thinks there needs to be more American flags at the protests is welcome to bring them along with themselves. But sitting here criticizing the people actually off their ass and trying to protect democracy and their neighbors is bullshit.
Further, the right is literally never going to see resistance to Trump positively. Anyone who has been on the Fox News drip for the past 20 years is so unhinged that living in California is a crime to them. Asking people whose neighbors and family members have been kidnapped by the federal government to hide their heritage in their protests because it might offend people that already hate them and want them gone is ridiculous. At least if you want to keep those people as allies.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]protect democracy
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
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I'm not sure what the hostility is for. The very thing the protesters are standing up for is the correct idea of America. The flag should be for real patriots who believe in the Constitution, not Trump and his insurrectionist ilk.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This. Exactly. Why burn the US flag and fly another nations flag when you're supposedly 'fighting for American democracy'? It doesn't make sense, and the optics aren't good.
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protect democracy
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
"Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?"
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"Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?"
You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
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protect democracy
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) over having their Constitutional rights violated not protecting democracy?
Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
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How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) over having their Constitutional rights violated not protecting democracy?
Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
LOL WUT? What in earthly green fuck are you on about now? Nobody ever claimed this, so not only are you straw-manning NOT saying something, you're ALSO straw-manning words that were never said in the first place.
You build up being the victim because I didn't include some special case that you wanted me to, and then pretend that I'm some righty? lol - You truly are pathetic.
The point is that I'm pretty sure these people more simply don't give 2 shits about "Due process" or any of the plethora of other dipshit, dumbass, illegal as fuck, traitorous shit that DJT is doing -- and pretty much only care about deportations.
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
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Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.
Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.
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Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
LOL WUT? What in earthly green fuck are you on about now? Nobody ever claimed this, so not only are you straw-manning NOT saying something, you're ALSO straw-manning words that were never said in the first place.
You build up being the victim because I didn't include some special case that you wanted me to, and then pretend that I'm some righty? lol - You truly are pathetic.
The point is that I'm pretty sure these people more simply don't give 2 shits about "Due process" or any of the plethora of other dipshit, dumbass, illegal as fuck, traitorous shit that DJT is doing -- and pretty much only care about deportations.
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
Do you actually need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens can hold a Mexican flag in protest?
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
Then go fucking do it instead of being a keyboard warrior criticizing the people actually doing shit. Jealousy’s an ugly color.
