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I've hated donald trump since day one but then I saw this and thought....

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    The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.

    Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.

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    Thank you. I have no idea what happened to LA this past few days, i know there's a protest and there's police violence against protestors and there's chaos, beyond that i'm very much in the dark.

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      This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).

      They could be briefed on the bus.

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      That bus would have its brake lines cut before Trump's first diaper change.

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      • C [email protected]

        You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right? 🤡 indeed.

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        Really? Which Protests do you mean? The vast majority of German flags I saw on anti Nazi demos in Germany had been mounted to Buildings or the hands of some Nazi Idiot at the counterprotest.

        Going one step towards the center of the political spectrum from the firmly left learning anti Nazi Demos, there are the anti AFD Demos which also attract(ed) people with far more moderate centrist political views than the average Antifa member, thus being more likely to support the idea of the state of Germany in its current form.
        Still, most flags you'd see were for pride / lgbtq+ or political organisations.

        You might see a German flag from time to time but i think it's just plain wrong to call it common.

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        • C [email protected]

          You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right? 🤡 indeed.

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          You really have no clue how much American "patriotism" is looked down upon on this side of the pool, do you? Nationalism is a nazi thing, no one who opposes nazis here would use a national flag during a protest.

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          • obnomus@lemmy.mlO [email protected]

            Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?

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            Trump is using the military to occupy a city that hates him. He wants to deport a lot of people, but the city isn't having it so protests have emerged.

            From what I've seen, four self driving taxies was burned (the car on the image) by protestors, while the police intentionally shot a news reporter, used a horse to trample a detained protestor, and has deployed marines to the streets.

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            • H [email protected]

              Trump is using the military to occupy a city that hates him. He wants to deport a lot of people, but the city isn't having it so protests have emerged.

              From what I've seen, four self driving taxies was burned (the car on the image) by protestors, while the police intentionally shot a news reporter, used a horse to trample a detained protestor, and has deployed marines to the streets.

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              A photojournalist was hit over the weekend and is still in the hospital after surgery.

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                You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right? 🤡 indeed.

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                If you'd bring a German flag to an anti-nazi rally, people will look at you weird. At more radical ones, you'll get smacked by a guy carrying an "Antifaschistische Aktion" flag.

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                • C [email protected]

                  You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right? 🤡 indeed.

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                  No. I didn't.

                  Because they don't. German Flags are usually shown at the Nazi or right wing rallies, not at anti-fascist rallies. You absolute fucking dunce.

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                    No. I didn't.

                    Because they don't. German Flags are usually shown at the Nazi or right wing rallies, not at anti-fascist rallies. You absolute fucking dunce.

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                    am german. can confirm.

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                    • catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                      What’s brain dead is thinking people only have a right to free speech if it fits what you think their optics should be.

                      Anyone who wouldn’t support the burning of an American flag is an enemy of the US Constitution.

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                      Wtf are you talking about?

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                      • R [email protected]

                        You've got little concept of what their cause is. Their cause is "you've pushed us to the breaking point and this society is no longer worth enabling, the social contract is dead." It's not to make the liberals sad, it's to hit everyone who wants to enable the system through disruption until their grievances are acknowledged. That's always been the method of even the most peaceful of successful protest movements. The entire point is to flex political power(and I'm not talking about voting here), not hope some liberal gives them thoughts and prayers.

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                        If you truly think that, that it's so bad that the social contract is broken, then leave LA. Simple.

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                          If you truly think that, that it's so bad that the social contract is broken, then leave LA. Simple.

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                          "Just become a refugee if it's so bad, don't attempt political change. Or maybe just commit suicide." There's a reason nobody's actually giving a shit that you're not going to lend your support to them. It's always been obvious that your types are the ones that need to feel the disruption because empathy isn't a language you understand.

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                            Trump is using the military to occupy a city that hates him. He wants to deport a lot of people, but the city isn't having it so protests have emerged.

                            From what I've seen, four self driving taxies was burned (the car on the image) by protestors, while the police intentionally shot a news reporter, used a horse to trample a detained protestor, and has deployed marines to the streets.

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                            Its not that they're self driving; it's that they're covered in cameras and the cops have live access.

                            Edit: and apparently root access to the whole car.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.

                              Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.

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                              'Captured'

                              I would say 'founded and staffed', but yes.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).

                                They could be briefed on the bus.

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                                Yeah, the protestors shouldn't be physically stopping the shutzstaffel from taking people to the camps. They should all get on busses for a two week round trip to inform the president that he violated the constitution when he sent in the marines and they would like him to stop now please if its not too much trouble.

                                When will these fuvking politically incompetent lefties ever learn?

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  "Just become a refugee if it's so bad, don't attempt political change. Or maybe just commit suicide." There's a reason nobody's actually giving a shit that you're not going to lend your support to them. It's always been obvious that your types are the ones that need to feel the disruption because empathy isn't a language you understand.

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                                  Well if they wanted to fix it, they could have. They just are so left wing that they refuse to.

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                                    Yeah, the protestors shouldn't be physically stopping the shutzstaffel from taking people to the camps. They should all get on busses for a two week round trip to inform the president that he violated the constitution when he sent in the marines and they would like him to stop now please if its not too much trouble.

                                    When will these fuvking politically incompetent lefties ever learn?

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                                    If lefties could learn they'd be leftists

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                                      Well if they wanted to fix it, they could have. They just are so left wing that they refuse to.

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                                      At this point I don't even think you know who you're talking about.

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Yeah, every Mexican flag in all of these photos is NOT helping their cause any. Just looks like exactly what the GOP says it is, an invasion. I'm not even sure I've SEEN an American flag during all the protest photos going around.

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                                        You are well within your rights to protest using any flag your like. Don't buy the bullshit. It's called freedom of speech

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                                          Yeah, the protestors shouldn't be physically stopping the shutzstaffel from taking people to the camps. They should all get on busses for a two week round trip to inform the president that he violated the constitution when he sent in the marines and they would like him to stop now please if its not too much trouble.

                                          When will these fuvking politically incompetent lefties ever learn?

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                                          This is the same playbook they use. Russia do it, Germany do it, France do it, Canada do it, Israel do it.

                                          We saw congress representatives ignoring people questions, and sometime not even showing up for meetings.

                                          The whole idea is to represent people, but they ignore your voice.

                                          They take your right, they ignore your peaceful protest, and then criminalize your peaceful protest, then arrest you.

                                          When you try to resist symbolically “Thrown rock at a tank” they escalate the response and claim you are violent.

                                          Then they tell you “should protest peacefully” so they can again ignore you and retaliate silently.

                                          The US history is full with peaceful protest, useful protest did nothing and never done any thing useful.

                                          When the protest start taking rich people income that when we see a quick change.

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