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The money in AI is going to be the wages of the people it replaces.

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    It seems like we have a problem where there's too much money at the top of society that's trying to chase returns that can't exist because there's enough money at the bottom to buy products, so it just gets invested in bad ways. This will probably continue until they waste enough for their own money on bullshit that they no longer have it

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    You're right in your analysis, but the prediction is wrong, I'm afraid.

    The next "big thing" is taking over the government. See Musk and his gang. He's not alone and the US isn't the only country this is happening in. Corporations inject themselves into each and every transaction, every aspect of life and politics. That way they have essentially infinite money at their hands.

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      It seems like we have a problem where there's too much money at the top of society that's trying to chase returns that can't exist because there's enough money at the bottom to buy products, so it just gets invested in bad ways. This will probably continue until they waste enough for their own money on bullshit that they no longer have it

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      Eventually the only way rich people can get richer is by stealing from other rich people because the economy is so heavily weighted toward the rich that there's just no money to extract from the poor. I think that's related to what we're seeing here .. And probably everywhere else as well.

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        That's exactly what I mean. Condescending, arrogant, and confidently incorrect.

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        Oh my. You completely missed the point.

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          Translation on a level an AI could do is already pretty cheap, nobody's gonna throw a nuanced legal document at an AI and rely on it.

          Junior devs are much smarter than any current AI, because they know what they want to achieve and why. There's a reason why all the demos are toy examples. Actual code is messy and full of quirks because of weird requirements.

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          My case in point. Instead of farming out translation jobs for 12 languages in WPML to people, we now auto translate all content via AI. That’s jobs lost. Complicated legal docs is an edge case in the content world.

          Cursor is agent mode with Claude 3.7 absolutely writes well enough after indexing our codebase to mean less junior devs. I’m sorry that doesn’t fit into your narrative.

          That’s not to say the world isn’t full of AI slop, and there aren’t huge issues around LLMs, But there are some solid use cases for this technology in replacing meat bags.

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            Oh my. You completely missed the point.

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            No, I fully understand your point, I just think it's shit, and since your first reaction to being challenged is a shitty attempt at belittling, I have to assume you're about as valuable as your point.

            Why would I trust the judgement of someone who can't even fathom the concept of "someone else might have a valid point"?

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              My case in point. Instead of farming out translation jobs for 12 languages in WPML to people, we now auto translate all content via AI. That’s jobs lost. Complicated legal docs is an edge case in the content world.

              Cursor is agent mode with Claude 3.7 absolutely writes well enough after indexing our codebase to mean less junior devs. I’m sorry that doesn’t fit into your narrative.

              That’s not to say the world isn’t full of AI slop, and there aren’t huge issues around LLMs, But there are some solid use cases for this technology in replacing meat bags.

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              I tried cursor, claude, copilot. They're not good.

              Like, they can sometimes generate 10 lines of perfectly reasonable code, but they constantly completely misunderstand my intention or simply produce garbage. But the garbage looks just good enough, that you actually have to read and understand it, which slows me down.

              Maybe we're operating in completely different worlds, but even for the junior devs in my company, typing speed was never an issue. I'm sure, within a few years LLMs can generate much better code, but I don't see widespread unemployment. They need way too much babysitting and result in worse code.

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                No, I fully understand your point, I just think it's shit, and since your first reaction to being challenged is a shitty attempt at belittling, I have to assume you're about as valuable as your point.

                Why would I trust the judgement of someone who can't even fathom the concept of "someone else might have a valid point"?

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                You sound more and more immature, so likelihood of you being a junior (and not a good one) is increasing

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                  You sound more and more immature, so likelihood of you being a junior (and not a good one) is increasing

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                  I see. We're at full blown ad hominem and removed even the pretense of argumentative value.

                  That's of course a sure sign of maturity.

                  Maybe all the juniors around you suck, because the good ones don't need to waste their time with arrogant, abrasive coworkers.

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                    The money in AI is going to be the wages of the people it replaces. Those tech billionaires call it a revolution because getting labor without wages is the promised land for cunt billionaires.

                    The AI revolution is here because that's what the owners want. If you think they'll wait until the AI is as good as humans to replace humans I'll point out that self-checkout already exists.

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                      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/ai-deteriorates-your-brain-according-to-microsoft-study/ar-AA1yQnGA

                      Searching for AI and Microsoft is an absolute shit show, btw. There was also a study about the code quality, but I can't find it among all the marketing bullshit.

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                      Thank you !!!

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