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Is there still no open source alternative to replacing Google Play Services?

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    I want to replace Google Play Services already on my SSG. Just wondering if there's an app that will push all the notifications...

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      I want to replace Google Play Services already on my SSG. Just wondering if there's an app that will push all the notifications...

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      As other comments mentioned, Push Notifications, your main issue has workarounds. So, the answer would be Yes.

      BUT Google Play Services is much more than that. This dependency can't be worked around really and it's one more way that Google establishes his stance in this oligopoly. I'm certain Apple has something similar if not more aggressive. This is the reason why the year of the Linux Phone is so far away.

      Personally, I think Linux Phones will catch-up when their hardware allows for emulation of an android subsystem where we could sideload (illegally?) Google Play Services...

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        I want to replace Google Play Services already on my SSG. Just wondering if there's an app that will push all the notifications...

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        Its one or the other. Either Google Play Services will push notifications, or the apps have to have the ability to handle push notifications on their own (which isn't common).

        Google Play Services can be sandboxed in GrapheneOS, but there isn't an open source Google Play Services since its not included in AOSP. It is very much a proprietary blob.

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          As other comments mentioned, Push Notifications, your main issue has workarounds. So, the answer would be Yes.

          BUT Google Play Services is much more than that. This dependency can't be worked around really and it's one more way that Google establishes his stance in this oligopoly. I'm certain Apple has something similar if not more aggressive. This is the reason why the year of the Linux Phone is so far away.

          Personally, I think Linux Phones will catch-up when their hardware allows for emulation of an android subsystem where we could sideload (illegally?) Google Play Services...

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          Waydroid runs on some Ubuntu Touch devices. Probably elsewhere too. Can't vouch for the performance though, never used it.

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            I want to replace Google Play Services already on my SSG. Just wondering if there's an app that will push all the notifications...

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            F-Droid and Aurora exist, i use them on my pixel 3a xl running ubuntu touch/waydroid.

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              F-Droid and Aurora exist, i use them on my pixel 3a xl running ubuntu touch/waydroid.

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              These are app stores, not app services, like GApps, GPS or MicroG

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                Its one or the other. Either Google Play Services will push notifications, or the apps have to have the ability to handle push notifications on their own (which isn't common).

                Google Play Services can be sandboxed in GrapheneOS, but there isn't an open source Google Play Services since its not included in AOSP. It is very much a proprietary blob.

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                microG is an open source, reverse engineered replacement for Google Play Services on Android. It still connects to Google servers, though.

                GrapheneOS doesn't use it because they came up with an effective Sandboxing solution, and microG requires spoofing the signature to make applications believe that the service was signed by Google, which introduces a potential attack vector.

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