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Enough is enough. Israel is committing war crimes | Opinion

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    The author Ehud Olmert

    is an Israeli politician and lawyer. He served as the 12th prime minister of Israel from 2006 to 2009 and before that as a cabinet minister from 1988 to 1992 and from 2003 to 2006. [source: Wikipedia]

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    It’s incredible. I protested against him in 2006 for his war crimes, and now he’s come around to admitting they’re happening.

    I don’t know what it is with Israeli PMs. Ariel Sharon, himself a convicted war criminal, agreed at the end of his term that pulling out of Gaza was the only way to save Israel and keep their West Bank settlements. Olmert succeeded him and now admits Israel does war crimes. Does that mean in 2050 Netanyahu will admit war crimes took place and that he was against them?

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      There have been too many incidents of cruel shooting at civilians...

      Is this the opposite of empathetic and humane shooting at civilians?

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      That's what they were doing before this whole Gaza invasion thing. Can't condemn that obviously.

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        It’s incredible. I protested against him in 2006 for his war crimes, and now he’s come around to admitting they’re happening.

        I don’t know what it is with Israeli PMs. Ariel Sharon, himself a convicted war criminal, agreed at the end of his term that pulling out of Gaza was the only way to save Israel and keep their West Bank settlements. Olmert succeeded him and now admits Israel does war crimes. Does that mean in 2050 Netanyahu will admit war crimes took place and that he was against them?

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        I think this is a case of "things can always get worse".

        He isn't saying that Israel committed war crimes under his leadership; just that it is doing so now. With the subtext of what is going on now is far worse than what happened back then. Which, as far as I can tell, is accurate.

        I keep bringing this up to show how far Israel has slid. Back in 2007, Israel convicted a man for supporting a terrorist organization. In 2022, that man was appointed as the Minister of National Security; and he is a lynchpin holding together Israel's current governing coalition.

        His political party, Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) is the successor of the Kach party, which was barred from public office in 1994 under Israeli anti-terrorism laws.

        Prior to the 2018-2022 political crisis, the far right parties like Otzma Yehudit were a political third rail and essentially left out of governing coalitions in favor of relatively moderate parties.

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          The author Ehud Olmert

          is an Israeli politician and lawyer. He served as the 12th prime minister of Israel from 2006 to 2009 and before that as a cabinet minister from 1988 to 1992 and from 2003 to 2006. [source: Wikipedia]

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          It really doesn’t take a genius to come to conclusions about WHAT this really is, looking at the city. It looks like Hiroshima after WW-II.

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            It’s incredible. I protested against him in 2006 for his war crimes, and now he’s come around to admitting they’re happening.

            I don’t know what it is with Israeli PMs. Ariel Sharon, himself a convicted war criminal, agreed at the end of his term that pulling out of Gaza was the only way to save Israel and keep their West Bank settlements. Olmert succeeded him and now admits Israel does war crimes. Does that mean in 2050 Netanyahu will admit war crimes took place and that he was against them?

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            It's like they all have to try it, personally, to figure out it doesn't work.

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              There's no 'getting caught'. They've been doing so publicly before, and they're doing it publicly now.

              I think what upsets him is that their long-term vision of Israel is a right-win illiberal middle-eastern theocratic kleptocracy, and he prefers a neoliberal technocratic imperial republic.

              He's not, like, a GOOD GUY, but I think in this instance his enemy is my enemy, and I think he's being pretty frank and sincere.

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              Something something "decays into fascism"...

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                It’s incredible. I protested against him in 2006 for his war crimes, and now he’s come around to admitting they’re happening.

                I don’t know what it is with Israeli PMs. Ariel Sharon, himself a convicted war criminal, agreed at the end of his term that pulling out of Gaza was the only way to save Israel and keep their West Bank settlements. Olmert succeeded him and now admits Israel does war crimes. Does that mean in 2050 Netanyahu will admit war crimes took place and that he was against them?

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                They've been committing war crimes at least since the 60s and never had any consequences. The international community gives tacit approval day after day, month after month, year after year. It's no wonder they've become bolder and bolder over time.

                Gaza is apparently the line where people start saying "steady on now".

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                  There have been too many incidents of cruel shooting at civilians...

                  Is this the opposite of empathetic and humane shooting at civilians?

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                  My response would be.... Too many? What's an acceptable number of cruel shootings at civilians?

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                    There have been too many incidents of cruel shooting at civilians...

                    Is this the opposite of empathetic and humane shooting at civilians?

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                    I guess he means cruel as opposed to "accidental". He's trying to make clear that it happens deliberately.

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                      There have been too many incidents of cruel shooting at civilians...

                      Is this the opposite of empathetic and humane shooting at civilians?

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                      I mean, it gets worse:

                      even when this should not happen. There is too much looting and theft

                      Apparently he believes there are times cruel shooting at civilians should happen, and there's an overall acceptable level of looting and theft.

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