Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
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I was an active user of pornhub when I was 14 years old
I was a teenager before the modern internet, so at 14 I got my porn from BBSes and friends sharing floppy disks. There was plenty of awful/illegal shit on BBSes. But they weren't regulated, so no one did anything about it.
You cannot ban teenagers from accessing porn. Full stop.
You can ban teenagers from using safe sites that follow the rules. That will force teenagers off responsible sites like PornHub and move them to shady sites that don't follow rules and have shit like child pornography.
That will force teenagers off responsible sites like PornHub and move them to shady sites that don't follow rules and have shit like child pornography.
Or to places like 4chan and Xitter, sites that host actual nazi shit in addition to porn. I was ideologically groomed by the far-right, and nazi propaganda is worse than porn IMHO to developing minds. I barely managed to escape.
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Just educate kids on sex. The sites from Pornhub are way better than the virus filled alternatives with way worse kinds of porn.
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If porn does any damage to the psyche, surely it's less than videos you can find showing torture and murder, right? At least in porn, people are shown having a good time. I'll also note that no porn is burned into my brain, but there are sure some other videos that are.
There is a certain video about some people and a cup burned into memory, but that video wouldn't be found on the sites owned by Pornhub, but more the shitty alternative sites who will never comply with rules and regulations.
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Yeah, this is 100% self-preservation. The article says they are in favor of age verification but want it done at the device level which is a much larger threat to privacy.
Depends on how it is done. You know those 2FA fobs that just pass a code every 30 seconds, right?
What if you made some kind of fob or chip that you can only get from the government when you are 18+ (here in NL that would be easy because most things are 18plus locked) then if you could use that for online gambling, porn, buying alcohol online, etc. it wouldn't be linked to your person.
If the government doesn't keep track of who has which fob/card. Which is easy to check if you get an accountant to do a formal audit on them, keeping track or not. I know PureVPN had done an audit like that checking if they kept themselves on their own no logs policy. -
Just educate kids on sex. The sites from Pornhub are way better than the virus filled alternatives with way worse kinds of porn.
I remember going on sketchy sotes to get logins and passwords to log into even sketchier porn sites.
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One day porn will have to be made by two friends with a tripod, a camera and a couch. They'll have to edit their own video and share it ptp. People will go to state sales trying to buy old hard drives to try to locate classical bdsm porn and rare gangbang art work.
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I find it a bit curious. You're choosing to believe one guy who scrolled Reddit a bit too long and whose Tedx talk to a large actually consists of reading aloud r/nofap comments over actual scientists who research this stuff with some rigor.
That's not to say porn doesn't have negative effects. But confidently basing theories on anecdotal evidence is not getting us much closer to truth, is it?
I always choose the side of science, but coming to false conclusions and questioning things later on has always been a part of that. Labelling scientific findings as ground truth in a world that changes so rapidly, especially in media and its consumption, seems a bit ignorant to me. Porn not being harmful is such a conclusion imho.
Also noporn does not equal nofap and people use those topics interchangeably on purpose it seems. Sadly that one guy I picked seems to be just a troubled soul with the right intention but wrong execution which is being used as an excuse for people to justify their own behaviour, which is comprehensible.
But then again, probably I myself am wrongfully shouting in the void here. I am not a bigot trying to convey people into thinking what they are doing every day is inherently bad for no reason, but a guy who thinks that this is an overlooked and trivialized topic. As with every controversial and emotional topic though, discussing this with a hivemind is difficult to impossible.
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Pornhub Is Pulling Out of France
So, Coitus Interruptus?
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Depends on how it is done. You know those 2FA fobs that just pass a code every 30 seconds, right?
What if you made some kind of fob or chip that you can only get from the government when you are 18+ (here in NL that would be easy because most things are 18plus locked) then if you could use that for online gambling, porn, buying alcohol online, etc. it wouldn't be linked to your person.
If the government doesn't keep track of who has which fob/card. Which is easy to check if you get an accountant to do a formal audit on them, keeping track or not. I know PureVPN had done an audit like that checking if they kept themselves on their own no logs policy.There is zero chance it would be implemented in a way that would protect privacy.
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There is zero chance it would be implemented in a way that would protect privacy.
If it wouldn't protect privacy then it wouldn't be GDPR compliant.
https://ageverification.dev/Technical Specification/architecture-and-technical-specifications/#22-design-principles it is mentioned under 2.2 Design Principles
Note I haven't read everything about it or seen any code surrounding it.
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If it wouldn't protect privacy then it wouldn't be GDPR compliant.
https://ageverification.dev/Technical Specification/architecture-and-technical-specifications/#22-design-principles it is mentioned under 2.2 Design Principles
Note I haven't read everything about it or seen any code surrounding it.
GDPR is for commercial products, not government mandated ID.
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GDPR is for commercial products, not government mandated ID.
Pretty sure, the rights that European citizens get based on GDPR also apply when dealing with the government(s).
Generally, governments are splintered into multiple parts and every part is only allowed to keep their relevant data.Anyway, the government as a whole just doesn't need to know what sites you visit and the companies don't need to see your personal information or any identifier. If they can just check if that number correspond to a true or false, it's enough.
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One day porn will have to be made by two friends with a tripod, a camera and a couch. They'll have to edit their own video and share it ptp. People will go to state sales trying to buy old hard drives to try to locate classical bdsm porn and rare gangbang art work.
Dial-up BBS’s watching GIFs download at 2400 baud?
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Exactly. There's a reason prostitution is called "the world's oldest profession". People have biological needs. Banning kids from using legitimate porn sites isn't going to undo millions of years of evolution.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]There’s a reason prostitution is called “the world’s oldest profession”.
Yes, it’s because it’s a lazy, overused sentence that people like to quote without thinking. There’s no solid ground to claim that prostitution is the world’s oldest profession.
People have biological needs.
Those "biological needs" aren’t porn. You can masturbate without porn. You can fantasize without porn. You can have sex without porn. And so on.
I’m not saying that this is a good measure, but "teenagers are interested in sex" ⇒ "we shouldn’t restrict what sexual media teenagers have access to" isn’t a very sound argument.
legitimate porn sites
“Legitimate” porn sites are all full of things I really wish I hadn’t seen as a middle schooler who was barely starting to get curious about sex. Or even as a high schooler who was decidedly interested in sex, actually.
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You can't force anyone to care about anything all you can do is educate them. After that if they do nothing then they clearly don't care if little Johnny or Susie are having personal time while browsing porn.
Most importantly of all the government has no business knowing what legal porn each adult does and does not consume in the name of "protecting children". It is the same bullshit argument governments use as a reason to require encryption backdoors.
That's very true.
