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8 billion people vs. 3000 billionaires: Who would win?

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  • goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

    But only because the other 8 billion let them

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    Yeah, and?

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        The likelihood we would have to have commanders with armies we could do an entire war with artillery, tank, infantry and air bombardment with jets they would be dead in days.

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          I'd want to say "8 billion people", but right now 3000 billionaires lead on.

          After all, they maintain their position by masterfully playing people off each other and setting things up to be on top. They have all the resources to extend their influence.

          If 8 billion people could turn billionaires voices off for anything larger than a day, then yeah, 8 billion all the way, and 3000 will run out FAST.

          But the latter know this, and will never let this happen. We should.

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            Just stop believing that those 3000 are billionaires. If 8 billion people say "No, you are not rich" those fuckers become poor. Money is a religion.

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            • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

              Matthew effect.

              For anyone wondering, the effect describes the uncanny ability for rich people to put on red outfits and act like blind devils whilst bending the law in their favor as they bask in their own self-proclaimed peity

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              No. It's about you, me and everyone else throwing money at people who have more than we do. And at the same time we all take from those who have less than we have. This helps us with securing our position in social hierarchy (to some degree) which also stabilizes the hierarchy. This is how we work as human beings, it's our very nature.

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                No. It's about you, me and everyone else throwing money at people who have more than we do. And at the same time we all take from those who have less than we have. This helps us with securing our position in social hierarchy (to some degree) which also stabilizes the hierarchy. This is how we work as human beings, it's our very nature.

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                (I was making a daredevil joke but no one got it 😢 )

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                  (I was making a daredevil joke but no one got it 😢 )

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                  Oh. Never watched the show or read the comics...

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                    Just stop believing that those 3000 are billionaires. If 8 billion people say "No, you are not rich" those fuckers become poor. Money is a religion.

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                    Except that doesn't stop the exchange of goods and services.

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                      Tje billionaires are winning now and the reasons are obvious.

                      The 8 billion are unable to think clearly, identify problems and organize. The billionaires are focused on their goals and super influential. They're able to buy loyality of the key less fortunate people and enforce loyality of others. They can also buy media to influence thinking of the masses.

                      If it was just about numbers, the billionaires would lose. But it's not.

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                        Don't put us on the same list with the rest of the world and 8 billion pretty much win.

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                          Depends on the situation.

                          If we were all put into an arena with zero weaponry, the 8 billion. Under no circumstances would the 3000 win because the 8 billion would most likely end up murdering them, even if by accident.

                          Under the current world conditions, not looking good.

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                            Oh. Never watched the show or read the comics...

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                            I mean, it was a bit of a reach, but I went for it

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                              Assuming the 8b were all of the same mind, they would win. But we all know there are quite a few that the billionaires could buy to fight for them

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                                I mean, it was a bit of a reach, but I went for it

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                                It's always worth a try!

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                                  Seems like the billionaires are winning 🤷🏼‍♀️ ?!

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                                    The game is rigged.

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                                      Seems like the billionaires are winning 🤷🏼‍♀️ ?!

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                                      Nobody is winning, except that demon capital. The billionaires are just losing less.

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                                        Nature seems to be helping out recently as well.

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                                        • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                                          Ignoring the most basic attention to detail is much worse than over-attention to detail. While they deserve consideration, optics are secondary to functionality. The most popular plan in the world is useless if it doesn't actually function.

                                          Engagement is nothing without substance. You're putting the cart before the horse.

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                                          You are well beyond "most basic", and also I disagree. Over-attention to detail is a very easy way to make nothing happen at all, which is currently killing people. I'm not the person who's going to map out a detailed plan to get to that society, nor do I think an internet comment section is the place to do that. Especially when what we're talking about is global revolution which absolutely necessitates broad engagement with many many people who don't know all the details and really don't need to. This is a very appropriate context to be talking in broad strokes. And if you want to wait for some perfect plan with every detail in exactly the right place, you'll be waiting until the heat death of the universe.

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