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Controlling everything in a car through screens is a safety hazard.

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    Any car will fog up when you get in with 4 people in wet clothes while it rains.

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    again that's not something you should be dealing with doing 110 on the freeway while steering with your knees and eating cup ramen.

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      Disagree about radio (if it’s really that urgent to receive an emergency broadcast you can pull over for a moment), but yeah the rest seem like it’s best to have physical controls for everything else.

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      The volume down is important.

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        Do you live somewhere not humid? My 2016 fiesta fogs up pretty badly.

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          Disagree about radio (if it’s really that urgent to receive an emergency broadcast you can pull over for a moment), but yeah the rest seem like it’s best to have physical controls for everything else.

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          That's theoretically correct, however, when picking safety standards you should go by how most people would be expected to act, not by ideal scenarios. Is someone commuting to work going to pull over to change the media source or radio station? Probably not. So the controls should minimize how long the driver will look at the console and have their hand off the steering wheel. Media buttons on the steering wheel can seem superfluous, but it helps keep people less distracted.

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            again that's not something you should be dealing with doing 110 on the freeway while steering with your knees and eating cup ramen.

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            I think my "peak American" was that time many years ago when I went driving down the I35 interstate in rural Kansas...eating a plate of chicken fettuccine alfredo.

            It's OK. The statute of limitations has long passed.

            Although, now that I think of it, this might be my peak Italian moment, though I'm not of Italian ancestry...

            Anyway, it was delicious Fazoli's.

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              The volume down is important.

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              That's usually on the steering wheel for a while now. I do agree with more physical buttons though.

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                I think my "peak American" was that time many years ago when I went driving down the I35 interstate in rural Kansas...eating a plate of chicken fettuccine alfredo.

                It's OK. The statute of limitations has long passed.

                Although, now that I think of it, this might be my peak Italian moment, though I'm not of Italian ancestry...

                Anyway, it was delicious Fazoli's.

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                Absolutely not. Italians may drive like madmen, but they drive well and are focussed.

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                  Controlling everything in a car through screens is a safety hazard. It's insane that's even allowed.

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                  I just bought a newish car and would not even consider any without physical buttons for climate. It really helped narrow the options, haha.

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                    That's usually on the steering wheel for a while now. I do agree with more physical buttons though.

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                    just because it is doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be regulated to be

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                      just because it is doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be regulated to be

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                      Also, it tends to be easier to find the volume knob or dedicated volume keys than trying to see if the label on the steering wheel is for volume, skip tracks or cruise control. Not as important on your car, but it comes into play for rentals and/or borrowed cars.

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                        Absolutely not. Italians may drive like madmen, but they drive well and are focussed.

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                        Why not? The world is in chaos anyway (e.g. the icon for taco looks like some Taco Bell creation 🌮), might as well enjoy the simple things in life.

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                          We have a 2015 Toyota Highlander with automatic climate controls. Except when it's 72° outside and 110° inside the car when I get in, I don't want it lazily blowing 72° air at me (which it does sometimes), I want it to blow ice cold air for several minutes so I don't sweat my balls off. Having physical controls is quite nice for that. I can set it back to 72 or 69^nice^ or whatever after the fact.

                          Both of my cars have automatic headlights, so 95% of the time we don't really touch those controls. Every once in a while I'll turn them on during a storm, when the light level isn't quite low enough to trigger the headlights.

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                            Controlling everything in a car through screens is a safety hazard. It's insane that's even allowed.

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                            It's insane that as of now it's up to manufacturers to self-regulate.

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                              I just bought a newish car and would not even consider any without physical buttons for climate. It really helped narrow the options, haha.

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                              I don't disagree, but what's up with climate? Of all the things I change during a drive, climate is probably the least used one. IMO, if the car has a decent HVAC system, it should be set and forget (less the defroster and A/C max in summer).

                              It might be that manufacturers see in their data that most people use it set and forget nowadays anyways, which made the cost cutting decision easier.

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                                automated headlights are another.

                                Automated headlights should be banned. Whenever I pull up next to someone with their lights off and talk to them, the answer is always the same "I thought they were on automatic!", and then they fumble about madly for a minute trying to find where the switch is at.

                                It takes one bump and you're driving without lights for days. It's even worse with DRLs since your "headlights" are always on, there is no major visual impact to the driver when their lights are off, but the safety aspects of DRLs I think out weight the risks here.

                                For the record, I'm not saying automatic headlights are useless. They're great if you are driving in an area that has a lot of light levels variations, like tunnels, or intermittent storms. They also are nice if you are driving during dawn or dusk. But... Automatic lights should be something you manually turn on and off, not a set-it-and-forget-it behavior.

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                                  I don't disagree, but what's up with climate? Of all the things I change during a drive, climate is probably the least used one. IMO, if the car has a decent HVAC system, it should be set and forget (less the defroster and A/C max in summer).

                                  It might be that manufacturers see in their data that most people use it set and forget nowadays anyways, which made the cost cutting decision easier.

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                                  You've obviously never been in the same car as my mom. "ooh it's cold in here, can you turn up the heating? A bit more? It's still cold, a bit more?" "oh wow, now it's really warm, can you turn down the heat?"

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                                    I don't disagree, but what's up with climate? Of all the things I change during a drive, climate is probably the least used one. IMO, if the car has a decent HVAC system, it should be set and forget (less the defroster and A/C max in summer).

                                    It might be that manufacturers see in their data that most people use it set and forget nowadays anyways, which made the cost cutting decision easier.

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                                    Idk, I probably have autism or something. In more extreme temps I like it blasting on me until I reach a tipping point at which it is completely overwhelming and I need it turned off or pointing away, haha. It could also be the fact that I am upgrading from a 2000. And I got an electric, so if I don't need climate control using battery I want it off, which may change when I am on the highway. Other factors include not having a garage and doing a lot of outdoor activities that can leave one very hot/cold/moist for the drive home.
                                    The thing that radicalized me on this issue was driving in a Tesla. You couldn't even change the direction of the vents manually.

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