Fake News. Get your Fake News here.
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It's true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Where's the source for discrediting the statement?
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It's true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Where's the source for discrediting the statement?
How do you prove "hidden" groups don't exist?
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How do you prove "hidden" groups don't exist?
Fair point. Could be a quote from a relevant expert saying "I think it's bullshit" maybe?
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It's true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Where's the source for discrediting the statement?
"Can you prove Iran doesn't have nukes? Because Israeli intelligence told me they do!"
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Fair point. Could be a quote from a relevant expert saying "I think it's bullshit" maybe?
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It's true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Where's the source for discrediting the statement?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It’s true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Saying a person spreading Israeli propaganda. Openly worked for an Israeli propaganda organization seems relevant to me....
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/03/wolf-blitzer-aipac-israel-si-kenan-cnn/
Like, I think you don't know what an "ad hominem" is if you believe this is one
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Fair point. Could be a quote from a relevant expert saying "I think it's bullshit" maybe?
I guess he is a relevant expert? And I think his tone suggests his judgement on the matter's bullshitosity.
Alan MacLeod is Senior Staff Writer for MintPress News. He completed his PhD in 2017 and has since authored two acclaimed books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent, as well as a number of academic articles. He has also contributed to FAIR.org, The Guardian, Salon, The Grayzone, Jacobin Magazine, and Common Dreams.
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It’s true but I prefer my criticisms without ad hominems
Saying a person spreading Israeli propaganda. Openly worked for an Israeli propaganda organization seems relevant to me....
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/03/wolf-blitzer-aipac-israel-si-kenan-cnn/
Like, I think you don't know what an "ad hominem" is if you believe this is one
Mmh... Somebody could hypothetically have worked for AIPAC in the past and become a staunch opponent of Israel's policy
For me, not specifically knowing the guy in question, using the shortcut "has worked for AIPAC" -> "is a mouthpiece of Israel" isn't a really solid argument
So, thanks for the link, this is what I missed
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"Can you prove Iran doesn't have nukes? Because Israeli intelligence told me they do!"
I get it but you could apply it to the post itself.
"Can you prove Wolf Blitzer isn't Israel's mouthpiece? Because somebody on the internet told me so!"
I don't see why asking for sources is mocked.
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Mmh... Somebody could hypothetically have worked for AIPAC in the past and become a staunch opponent of Israel's policy
For me, not specifically knowing the guy in question, using the shortcut "has worked for AIPAC" -> "is a mouthpiece of Israel" isn't a really solid argument
So, thanks for the link, this is what I missed
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Somebody could hypothetically have worked for AIPAC in the past and become a staunch opponent of Israel’s policy
I'd be surprised if you could find a single example...
AIPAC uses bribes as the carrot, then if you go against them, the being up past carrots (bribes) and use the disclosure of them as "the stick".
Like, do you not understand how state back propaganda works? AIPAC works hand in hand with Israeli intelligence and their administration.
Literally the only reason AIPAC exists is because it's predessor had to register as a foreign agent, so AIPAC replaced it and immediately bribed the people who decide who has to register as a foreign agent....
For me,
This isn't a one off specific issue you missed ...
You seem completely unaware what AIPAC actually is and what they do...
But still feel the need to weigh in. Why?
Why not spend 15 minutes reading up on AIPAC?
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I guess he is a relevant expert? And I think his tone suggests his judgement on the matter's bullshitosity.
Alan MacLeod is Senior Staff Writer for MintPress News. He completed his PhD in 2017 and has since authored two acclaimed books: Bad News From Venezuela: Twenty Years of Fake News and Misreporting and Propaganda in the Information Age: Still Manufacturing Consent, as well as a number of academic articles. He has also contributed to FAIR.org, The Guardian, Salon, The Grayzone, Jacobin Magazine, and Common Dreams.
OK thanks for the context. The post is overly elliptic.
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Somebody could hypothetically have worked for AIPAC in the past and become a staunch opponent of Israel’s policy
I'd be surprised if you could find a single example...
AIPAC uses bribes as the carrot, then if you go against them, the being up past carrots (bribes) and use the disclosure of them as "the stick".
Like, do you not understand how state back propaganda works? AIPAC works hand in hand with Israeli intelligence and their administration.
Literally the only reason AIPAC exists is because it's predessor had to register as a foreign agent, so AIPAC replaced it and immediately bribed the people who decide who has to register as a foreign agent....
For me,
This isn't a one off specific issue you missed ...
You seem completely unaware what AIPAC actually is and what they do...
But still feel the need to weigh in. Why?
Why not spend 15 minutes reading up on AIPAC?
Sorry I'm not an American! FFS
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I get it but you could apply it to the post itself.
"Can you prove Wolf Blitzer isn't Israel's mouthpiece? Because somebody on the internet told me so!"
I don't see why asking for sources is mocked.
Because when provided with positive evidence of obvious bias, you demanded proof of a negative which is ranges from prohibitively difficult to impossible. This is not a valid form of reasoning. The inability to disprove something is not a valid reason to believe in it.
Let me put it another way, I don't converse with paedophiles so I'm going to need proof that you've never diddled kids before we can continue.
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Sorry I'm not an American! FFS
That's fine...
I'm not saying you need to be an expert on everything.
I'm just asking you to at least familiarize yourself with things you want to discuss, before making assumptions and defending genocidal religious extremists.
because lots of people view genocide as a serious topic...
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Because when provided with positive evidence of obvious bias, you demanded proof of a negative which is ranges from prohibitively difficult to impossible. This is not a valid form of reasoning. The inability to disprove something is not a valid reason to believe in it.
Let me put it another way, I don't converse with paedophiles so I'm going to need proof that you've never diddled kids before we can continue.
It was hardly evidence. It was a quip.
Let me put it another way, I don't converse with paedophiles so I'm going to need proof that you've never diddled kids before we can continue.
Here we go. Amazing and terribly clever.
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That's fine...
I'm not saying you need to be an expert on everything.
I'm just asking you to at least familiarize yourself with things you want to discuss, before making assumptions and defending genocidal religious extremists.
because lots of people view genocide as a serious topic...
I was asking about some context and everyone gets rabid. Super cool.
How am I supposed to know who the twitter guy is? You really research everyone you hear about on this community?
because lots of people view genocide as a serious topic...
Astounding.
