Why is blocking so common nowadays?
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I have blocked more in the last year than I have in the last 20 combined. There are far, far too many people arguing to troll, arguing in bad faith, threatening, or insulting that will do everything they can to bait you, derail your argument, DM you with insults, etc.
It’s probably because I’ve become far more critical of anti-science, shitty politics, and shitty people, so I’m sure that’s part of the reason, but nonetheless I don’t have the time or patience anymore to waste on the pigeons knocking pieces over and shitting on the chessboard declaring victory, so I block them.
I also have been blocked outright when presenting any objectively factual rebuttal. Facts are often strictly disallowed in the narrative, particularly political and anti-science ones. People don’t want their flow of internet “likes” interrupted.
Same man.
I never used to block people on principle... but at the same time people never said horrible shit or harassed me so there really was no reason to.
People also were not posting all sorts of crazy nonsense 10 years ago in the same volume or lever of vitriolic hate they do now.
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I need to start blocking people for my own sanity. You tell them the sky is blue, and they'll demand a source. You send them a picture of the sky and they tell you its not a source. You dick about spending 5 minutes of your time finding an actual source because you obviously weren't prepared to defend something so obvious, and they just tell you "pfft [source]. Actually trusting [source] in [thisyear]." It goes on.
Yeah I gave up 'sourcing' anything because nobody will believe sources anymore. They will just tell you the source is wrong.
And if you tell them to look up their own sources, they tell you to f yourself and how it isn't their job its yours.
It's stupidity and entitlement wrapped up into one neat package.
I also love people who tell you what you are staying is a 'fallacy' when it's not. And they really do not care about learning what a fallacy actually is... they just want to use it to call other people wrong even if they totally misunderstand how fallacies work.
They simple do not want to admit fault or mistake or god forbid... learn something new.
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Only issue I take with this is that the last year has shown us the internet represents living people, even if we put them out of sight.
That said, I don’t exactly know how we “solve” that cesspool.
You don't. It's on other people to fix themselves.
Sadly, they think you're a cesspool too for not agreeing with them. I've noticed my opinions have become super controversial now because I'm not a polarized person. And non-polarized viewpoints are EVIL to anyone who is an extremist, and all the extremists think they are moderates are the only ones who see 'the truth'.
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I think there's far fewer genuine trolls than people claim. Someone being an asshole because they had a bad day? Not a troll. Someone deliberately pretending to be something they're not in order to rile up people for fun? Troll.
Most of the time, you're blocking your brethren on their worst days. Which is your right, but don't pretend that just cuz your brother is warty that they're a troll.
they aren't my 'brethren'
they are strangers spouting nonsense.
i also block/stop talking to my friends/colleagues who also spout nonsense.
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Because people online are jerks
dunno if you go out into the world much, but they are also massive jerks there too
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Only way around this is editing your previous comment, though I've been told that can sometimes lead to a ban? Never happened to me though.
What really annoys me about that is that it prevents you from replying to anyone ELSE who replies to you in that thread, which is completely absurd.
for some reason 'editing' comments is considered horrible and awful.
i never understood that myself.
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It also bleeds over into real life too. It's a habit people develop... just shut out anything/anyone who says anything I don't like or that causes me to have to think.
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Follow-up to this question after seeing many responses (and thank you): What is your default mode for self-doubt when engaging in discussions?
That is, no matter how confident you may be in something, do you maintain an open door, or are your beliefs you block over completely set in stone?
For me, little terrifies me more than becoming the thing I hate; to be clouded by my own cognitive bias; to inadvertently throw myself into an echo-chamber of self-validation. As such I try my best to always maintain at least the slightest bit of doubt in even my strongest beliefs, and to that end to at least let dialogue challenging that come through.
Basically, I give people one or two chances, and then you're done.
Esp if they cross the line into insults and bad/false argumentation
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It's baffling how quick people are to do it. A while ago, I sold an old electronic thing on Marketplace to someone. A day later, they sent me an angry message saying that it didn't work and how I scammed them, then proceeded to block me. I would've liked the opportunity to troubleshoot with them or even refund the item if it turned out to actually be broken, but... blocking me precludes all that. What exactly did they hope to achieve?
they are a dumb person.
there was no goal. just emotional expression at likely was their own mistake/foolishness.
i've definitely have co workers who blow up at me, then realize their error and sheepishly pretend they never blew up at me rather than apologize.
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Blocking is self-care. Just with the added teeth of "get tf out of my phone."
That's it.
It's maintaining your personal peace, and frankly I find it weird that it's even a conversation let alone as stigmatized as it is. People still have a litany of ways to reconnect outside digital. It's literally what people had to do before blocking was a thing.
This logic can be applied to using corporate devices... but i guess it is harder
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Sounds like they wanted to angrily vent, but not also take accountability for what may be their own mistake. People are extremely poor at confrontation, and so often resort to these cheapshot hit-and-run tactics. They MUST have the last word, so they get their little dig in, then block very quickly. I just roll my eyes.
Right, I get that people are not great at confrontation. It's certainly not my strong suit, either. But apparently it's too much to expect people to be reasonable adults.
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If you've previously had the experience of reaching out to someone politely in good faith about a problem with your purchase, and they really were a scammer and responded "haha get fucked loser" and blocked you, that's a mentally damaging interaction. You made yourself vulnerable and got taken advantage of. Not just once for buying from a scammer, but twice for then politely asking the scammer to help you! And that feels awful - as if the scammer "won", and you are a sucker who didn't even realise you'd been scammed.
That is why people are quick to go on the offensive when they suspect they've been wronged, because they've been hurt before and want to try and claw back some small measure of pride by saying effectively "Okay you scammed me, but I'm not so stupid I don't see it, and I won't make myself vulnerable to you." - that's what the message and block you received really means, if you unpack it.
I would be so much nicer if things weren't this way, and we could assume the best in people. With honest sellers such as yourself, it would even lead to the problem getting fixed! But there are a lot of scammers out there, so I understand the psychological "why", even if I don't like it and try to never behave that way myself.
Yeah, it's just unfortunate all around. I do feel a bit bad that there isn't anything I could've done to fix things, but I wasn't given the chance to anyway.
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dunno if you go out into the world much, but they are also massive jerks there too
Don’t make them my friend group pal
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Only issue I take with this is that the last year has shown us the internet represents living people, even if we put them out of sight.
That said, I don’t exactly know how we “solve” that cesspool.
Really? The internet is living people? Because if you ask me it's at least 60% bots.
And regardless, nobody's entitled to my attention if I don't want to give it to them. Block button.
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I used to agree with you. Ever since I started just blocking anyone that was being annoying my experience on the web has been great.
I used to disagree with you, but i was new to Lemmy. Thanks for sharing
