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    Notice how massive meltdowns over video games get, versus things that actively harm/kill people.

    Not that I don’t agree with Stop Killing Games’s mission, or recognize that micro transactions being shoved into everything is a symptom of how shit late stage capitalism is, but I wish that same kind of “front page on every website, massive signature/phone call campaign” that happened when that Diablo mobile game was bad happened for all the shit that ends up on ProPublica on the daily. Like, can we phone bank to tell Idaho to stop treating disabled kids like shit or something?

    A lot of folks lives seem to revolve entirely around video games/gooning, and it’s just kind of sad.

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    We can, just give me a petition link I can sign. Or at least a newsletter or something I can subscribe to so I get notified when a petition is out to sign.

    Video games or not, SKG is a great success for European civic participation. We should be taking notes on how it was organized, what it did right, and what it did wrong.

    ...or we can raise our fists towards the clouds and complain.

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      well i mean...you can't stop a war in another country by voting for it on some website.

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      True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.

      Edit: downvotes don't change the truth

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        How are you going to stop the Sudanese Civil War with a petition?

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        I was about to ask the same question.

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        • A [email protected]

          Notice how massive meltdowns over video games get, versus things that actively harm/kill people.

          Not that I don’t agree with Stop Killing Games’s mission, or recognize that micro transactions being shoved into everything is a symptom of how shit late stage capitalism is, but I wish that same kind of “front page on every website, massive signature/phone call campaign” that happened when that Diablo mobile game was bad happened for all the shit that ends up on ProPublica on the daily. Like, can we phone bank to tell Idaho to stop treating disabled kids like shit or something?

          A lot of folks lives seem to revolve entirely around video games/gooning, and it’s just kind of sad.

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          Notice how massive online meltdowns over video games get

          FTFY. This is a visibility bias.

          There are protests going in Angola. 5 people are killed, thousands arrested. I think that counts as a meltdown. But you didn't know that. And I didn't know that until I looked for something to show as an example.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y20dxkykro

          As for gamers and their online meltdowns - the demographic are already online. And global.

          Do you think people from UK or Canada will phone a bank in Idaho? The visibility bias applies there as well.

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            True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.

            Edit: downvotes don't change the truth

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            Not voluntarily.

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              True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.

              Edit: downvotes don't change the truth

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              I don't think being a basic working human of certain nationality makes you a war contributor or anything else.

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              • A [email protected]

                Notice how massive meltdowns over video games get, versus things that actively harm/kill people.

                Not that I don’t agree with Stop Killing Games’s mission, or recognize that micro transactions being shoved into everything is a symptom of how shit late stage capitalism is, but I wish that same kind of “front page on every website, massive signature/phone call campaign” that happened when that Diablo mobile game was bad happened for all the shit that ends up on ProPublica on the daily. Like, can we phone bank to tell Idaho to stop treating disabled kids like shit or something?

                A lot of folks lives seem to revolve entirely around video games/gooning, and it’s just kind of sad.

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                i think there are at least two things at play here

                1. can i do something about this?

                2. does it affect me?

                if the answer is "no" to both then focusing on that just brings misery about some bad thing happening somewhere, not the best idea mental health wise. if the answer is "yes" to both then you'll see plenty of action.

                if we have yes for change, but no for being affected then it's up for the good heart (and time and money) of any individual to make a choice to help. and if we have no can't change, but yes it affects me, then we have depression.

                NSFW bans affect everyone using the internet, and they're created purely on moral grounds, so your voice is just as loud as every other voice. if enough people complain, maybe it won't change anyone's opinion, but the likelihood that those in charge just give in goes up, it boils down to which side complains louder pretty much

                wars, misery, mistreatment, hate, bigotry, clearly have gone well past the "let's sit down and talk about if this is the best way forward for us, and if you disagree with the majority opinion we will be very annoying", there's just– not much even combined voices of millions can do here, as evident by the world around us

                so in my conclusion - people are more likely to fight when they have some reasonable chance to win said fight. we have in the past successfully made companies undo things we didn't like, we complained, and we got what we wanted. but how many wars have we stopped this way?

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                • A [email protected]

                  the war in Sudan doesn't have NSFW filters, so why does it need to be stopped?

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                  Asking the real questions here.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    well i mean...you can't stop a war in another country by voting for it on some website.

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                    Just like you will never lose your virginity by talking to a horny chatbot.

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                    • ssupii@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                      I don't think being a basic working human of certain nationality makes you a war contributor or anything else.

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                      Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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                      • bananaisaberry@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

                        Not voluntarily.

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                        I didn't say it was voluntary.

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                        • obviouslynotbanana@piefed.worldO [email protected]

                          Kony 2012

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                          What a shitshow that turned out to be...

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                            Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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                            People feel so disempowered, don't they? Yup. We tax payers directly fund genocide, and we should be fucking mad about it. We're fighting a religious war, being manipulated by intelligence agencies and evangelicals. It's bullshit, and rolling over is pathetic.

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                              True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.

                              Edit: downvotes don't change the truth

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                              they hated that 🤣

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                              • A [email protected]

                                Notice how massive meltdowns over video games get, versus things that actively harm/kill people.

                                Not that I don’t agree with Stop Killing Games’s mission, or recognize that micro transactions being shoved into everything is a symptom of how shit late stage capitalism is, but I wish that same kind of “front page on every website, massive signature/phone call campaign” that happened when that Diablo mobile game was bad happened for all the shit that ends up on ProPublica on the daily. Like, can we phone bank to tell Idaho to stop treating disabled kids like shit or something?

                                A lot of folks lives seem to revolve entirely around video games/gooning, and it’s just kind of sad.

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                                Well signatures and phone calls only go so far. When it comes to big, serious, literal life or death issues, petitions just aren't going to get the job done and it becomes pretty pointless to waste your energy on that particular course of action.

                                Similarly, it's pretty shitty to act like action on smaller issues means we're just ignoring bigger issues. Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop or the Ukraine war to end.

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                                  How are you going to stop the Sudanese Civil War with a petition?

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                                  How are you going to stop the Sudanese Civil War with a petition?

                                  By removing Character.AI NSFW filters

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                                  • obviouslynotbanana@piefed.worldO [email protected]

                                    Kony 2012

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                                    To think an evil African warlord was allowed to get away with it because of some silly laws against public masturbation or indecent exposure or whatever.

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                                    • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                                      they hated that 🤣

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                                      Yeah, because it's a really fucking stupid point to make. I didn't choose to be born in America and I'm forced to pay taxes. It's blaming every day citizens for their government's actions regardless of the citizen's actions or votes.

                                      The majority of Lemmy is leftist, and the majority of Americans on Lemmy do not support what's happening right now. Should I blame you for the actions of your country? I'm sure we can find some awful shit if we look through history, especially if you're European.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        Well signatures and phone calls only go so far. When it comes to big, serious, literal life or death issues, petitions just aren't going to get the job done and it becomes pretty pointless to waste your energy on that particular course of action.

                                        Similarly, it's pretty shitty to act like action on smaller issues means we're just ignoring bigger issues. Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop or the Ukraine war to end.

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                                        Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop

                                        lemmy.ml hated that

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                                          Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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                                          All you're doing is attempting to dehumanize and discredit people based on nationality. Literal MAGA mentality. No shit we pay taxes, do you not?

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