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  • A [email protected]

    the war in Sudan doesn't have NSFW filters, so why does it need to be stopped?

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    Asking the real questions here.

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    • B [email protected]

      well i mean...you can't stop a war in another country by voting for it on some website.

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      Just like you will never lose your virginity by talking to a horny chatbot.

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      • ssupii@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

        I don't think being a basic working human of certain nationality makes you a war contributor or anything else.

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        Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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        • bananaisaberry@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

          Not voluntarily.

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          I didn't say it was voluntary.

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          • obviouslynotbanana@piefed.worldO [email protected]

            Kony 2012

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            What a shitshow that turned out to be...

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              Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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              People feel so disempowered, don't they? Yup. We tax payers directly fund genocide, and we should be fucking mad about it. We're fighting a religious war, being manipulated by intelligence agencies and evangelicals. It's bullshit, and rolling over is pathetic.

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                True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.

                Edit: downvotes don't change the truth

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                they hated that 🤣

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                • A [email protected]

                  Notice how massive meltdowns over video games get, versus things that actively harm/kill people.

                  Not that I don’t agree with Stop Killing Games’s mission, or recognize that micro transactions being shoved into everything is a symptom of how shit late stage capitalism is, but I wish that same kind of “front page on every website, massive signature/phone call campaign” that happened when that Diablo mobile game was bad happened for all the shit that ends up on ProPublica on the daily. Like, can we phone bank to tell Idaho to stop treating disabled kids like shit or something?

                  A lot of folks lives seem to revolve entirely around video games/gooning, and it’s just kind of sad.

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                  Well signatures and phone calls only go so far. When it comes to big, serious, literal life or death issues, petitions just aren't going to get the job done and it becomes pretty pointless to waste your energy on that particular course of action.

                  Similarly, it's pretty shitty to act like action on smaller issues means we're just ignoring bigger issues. Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop or the Ukraine war to end.

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                    How are you going to stop the Sudanese Civil War with a petition?

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                    How are you going to stop the Sudanese Civil War with a petition?

                    By removing Character.AI NSFW filters

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                    • obviouslynotbanana@piefed.worldO [email protected]

                      Kony 2012

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                      To think an evil African warlord was allowed to get away with it because of some silly laws against public masturbation or indecent exposure or whatever.

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                      • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                        they hated that 🤣

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                        Yeah, because it's a really fucking stupid point to make. I didn't choose to be born in America and I'm forced to pay taxes. It's blaming every day citizens for their government's actions regardless of the citizen's actions or votes.

                        The majority of Lemmy is leftist, and the majority of Americans on Lemmy do not support what's happening right now. Should I blame you for the actions of your country? I'm sure we can find some awful shit if we look through history, especially if you're European.

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                          Well signatures and phone calls only go so far. When it comes to big, serious, literal life or death issues, petitions just aren't going to get the job done and it becomes pretty pointless to waste your energy on that particular course of action.

                          Similarly, it's pretty shitty to act like action on smaller issues means we're just ignoring bigger issues. Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop or the Ukraine war to end.

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                          Your concern for Idaho's treatment of disabled kids isn't instead of wanting Israel's genocide to stop

                          lemmy.ml hated that

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                            Well it's true even if you don't like knowing it.

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                            All you're doing is attempting to dehumanize and discredit people based on nationality. Literal MAGA mentality. No shit we pay taxes, do you not?

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                              All you're doing is attempting to dehumanize and discredit people based on nationality. Literal MAGA mentality. No shit we pay taxes, do you not?

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                              I'm doing neither. This is a fucking fact. Our, yes our, tax dollars are killing people. I'm sorry you live in some delusion that thinks this isn't true. You trying to reject truth and deny responsibility is the MAGA move here. Deal with it.

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                                I'm doing neither. This is a fucking fact. Our, yes our, tax dollars are killing people. I'm sorry you live in some delusion that thinks this isn't true. You trying to reject truth and deny responsibility is the MAGA move here. Deal with it.

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                                We all realize that. You implying all Americans are implicit because they're forced to pay taxes, like just about any citizen of any nation, is the stupid part here. Paying taxes does not make you implicit in the actions of your government. Full stop. Yet you keep bringing it up as a "gotcha".

                                "Hehe we're just as much to blame for being Americans even though we have a rigged election system and no way to escape it."

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                                  Yeah, because it's a really fucking stupid point to make. I didn't choose to be born in America and I'm forced to pay taxes. It's blaming every day citizens for their government's actions regardless of the citizen's actions or votes.

                                  The majority of Lemmy is leftist, and the majority of Americans on Lemmy do not support what's happening right now. Should I blame you for the actions of your country? I'm sure we can find some awful shit if we look through history, especially if you're European.

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                                  I'm also American. yes we are to blame for the actions of our country because our country was founded on the principle that we would get a say in what it does no matter what. We even have a hierarchy of rights to protect our ability to take responsibility for our country's actions. From our right to free speech that protects our ability to protest, to our right to vote which protects our right to choose (in theory when we prevent vote fixing like gerrymandering ), to our right to own guns which allows us to protect the first two rights (when we don't let anyone limit 2a), to our right to be educated enough to exercise all the previous rights.

                                  When things have gone as wrong as they have, sure there are bad actors involved but at some point we fucked up and that's on us. There will always be bad actors and we gotta be more responsible than just letting it go saying "well I didn't have a choice ". Our failures affect the whole world.

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                                    well i mean...you can't stop a war in another country by voting for it on some website.

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                                    You can make your government join the war to stop the war

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                                    • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS [email protected]

                                      I'm also American. yes we are to blame for the actions of our country because our country was founded on the principle that we would get a say in what it does no matter what. We even have a hierarchy of rights to protect our ability to take responsibility for our country's actions. From our right to free speech that protects our ability to protest, to our right to vote which protects our right to choose (in theory when we prevent vote fixing like gerrymandering ), to our right to own guns which allows us to protect the first two rights (when we don't let anyone limit 2a), to our right to be educated enough to exercise all the previous rights.

                                      When things have gone as wrong as they have, sure there are bad actors involved but at some point we fucked up and that's on us. There will always be bad actors and we gotta be more responsible than just letting it go saying "well I didn't have a choice ". Our failures affect the whole world.

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                                      our country was founded on the principle that we would get a say in what it does no matter what.

                                      Eh, there are some pretty good arguments against that being the case, but even if it were, that principle hasn't really been in effect since before most of the people on Lemmy were even born.

                                      I think it's fair to say we're responsible for improving the system if we don't like the way it currently works. But I don't think it's fair to say we're responsible for the actions of the system, if the system was stood up before we had any way to influence it.

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                                        our country was founded on the principle that we would get a say in what it does no matter what.

                                        Eh, there are some pretty good arguments against that being the case, but even if it were, that principle hasn't really been in effect since before most of the people on Lemmy were even born.

                                        I think it's fair to say we're responsible for improving the system if we don't like the way it currently works. But I don't think it's fair to say we're responsible for the actions of the system, if the system was stood up before we had any way to influence it.

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                                        My dude we severed ourselves from an empire over the literal phrase "no taxation without representation". that's what it means. and yeah, back then we only meant white people and now we only mean people with money but the tools to effect change are right here. we built them into our national identity. if you really don't see it, I encourage you to look harder. seek communities of like-minded potential voters or capital stormers.

                                        we're all connected and effect the system we live in small ways that add up. you may disavow your contribution but that in itself is a decision that effects everything. our parents pretending otherwise is why it got like this. us continuing to do so is causing the next genocide.

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                                          We all realize that. You implying all Americans are implicit because they're forced to pay taxes, like just about any citizen of any nation, is the stupid part here. Paying taxes does not make you implicit in the actions of your government. Full stop. Yet you keep bringing it up as a "gotcha".

                                          "Hehe we're just as much to blame for being Americans even though we have a rigged election system and no way to escape it."

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                                          You have a lot of faith in what people in this country realize while also "full stopping" the responsibility that we are funding genocide. You think that because taxes are required to be paid that that somehow removes the responsibility from the tax payer, but that's just a cop out. If ANYONE in this country really gave a flying shit about fixing anything that is wrong then everyday would be a protest. People would give up their comforts and stop buying shit. People would quit going to their jobs. People would stop paying their taxes. We won't though. We're ok with the far away genocide because we can hop on social media and be like #stopgenocide so that EVERYONE knows we're good guys. It's all performance and you prove that with your argument. "I'm not causing genocide!!!" - You

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