Android is now warning of Firefox sharing data

[kilgore_trout@feddit.it]

No custom ROM use MLS anymore. It was shut down a few years ago.

Anyway, in general, apps get their location data from Play Services.

Apps that don't use Play Services get data from the default provider, which is always Google.

The successor of MLS is BeaconDB.

[kilgore_trout@feddit.it]

Librewolf is Firefox plus some light patches, and as such depends entirely from Firefox.

[laurelraven@lemmy.zip]

Okay, turned it off. If a site needs my location it can ask me and I can politely tell it to fuck off unless it has a warrant.

[clot27@lemm.ee]

Any good browser suggestion??

[aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone]

I like Zen. Waterfox is also good.

[Guest]

I like Vivaldi

[Guest]

The legal definition of "sell" has changed in several major markets, and that's (supposedly) why Firefox has recently changed their terms. The word "sell" is now ostensibly broad enough to include "give to anybody for any reason", including if you use Firefox for any reason where you would legitimately want and need Firefox to give ("sell") your data - for example if you use it for: literally any shopping or even just browsing store pages; any interactive (real world) maps where you may want to use your location; any searches where you want local businesses to be listed; any search engine that may want to use your location to aid in results; etc. etc. etc.

Any legitimate exchange of data can now be construed as "selling" because of the new legal definitions, regardless of if anyone is actually selling anything.

It's very possible that nothing has changed - that Firefox hasn't started selling user data, they're just updating their terms (and this app listing) to reflect the changes in the legal definitions of "sell".

[clot27@lemm.ee]

for android?

[diemartin@sh.itjust.works]

Hey guys, did you know?

[Guest]

fennec - it's foss firefox mod, without google and other tracking garbage

[orkneykomodo@lemmy.sdf.org]

GrapheneOS posted this on Mastodon about a month & a half back:

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113900949999725460

[Guest]

so it's not an alternative

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Firefox is maintained by Mozilla, Fennec is a custom build that removes some stuff, and is maintained by some Russian person who I'm pretty sure isn't affiliated with Mozilla (get here by clicking the "Issue Tracker" link).

It's not a fork since it's built from Mozilla sources, it's just a build script.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

My understanding is this is due to regions broadening the definition of "sell" to include any form of personal data transfer. So Mozilla giving location info (with consent if you enable "ask every time" in the permissions) to websites to look up local store hours or whatever is "selling data."

AFAIK, nothing has changed in Firefox.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

The former, but the language looks vague enough that they could do the latter eventually. My understanding is that they have to be vague in the language for legal reasons (e.g. to appease regulators in various markets).

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

• Fennec - Firefox build with some proprietary stiff removed; repo
• IronFox - Firefox fork (forked from Mull) with a bunch of hardening changes (notably resistFingerprinting enabled); repo

IronFox is more ambitious, which means higher maintenance load and more likely to fall behind. Fennec is much simpler, so less likely to fall behind, but also doesn't change much from Firefox.

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

I wish more projects hosted their own F-droid repo and kept it up to date. FUTO has one for their stuff (Grayjay, FUTO Keyboard, etc), but it's frequently outdated, whereas Bitwarden and a few others I use do a good job.

Maybe Accrescent is what I'm looking for. I just want a store that:

• automatically updates when devs push a release
• checks signatures
• has a good selection of FOSS apps

I basically want fdroid, but faster updates.

[Guest]

It looks like they have a team and it’s open-source. It’s a gamble, but I’m guessing the death of Firefox would probably be a boon, not a hinderance, depending on who supports what from there.

[Guest]

Yeah. People can avoid all this nonsense by installing one simple app... Duck duck go browser.

You don't have to use the browser. It just sits in the background quietly blocking tracking requests from other apps.

It's absolutely horrifying on first use to see how egregious tracking is.

[0xd@infosec.pub]

That's not how it works. Apps cannot access the traffic of other apps, let alone decrypt it. There is no way DDG Browser does what you claim it does. They do not even claim that themselves.

EDIT: Unless, of course, it works as a VPN, which apparently it does.