Are the Sentinelese still alive?
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With so few of them, it wouldn't take much to end them all.
With 200, half would be female, and maybe a third of them would be child bearing.
A food crisis, or internal strife, or disease, or all three at once, could easily drop that number to too few to sustain the population, and that would be the end of them.
Just because it hasn't happened before, doesn't mean it can not have happened recently. For all we know, they were suffering such a crisis for the past twenty+ years, and now the last of them have died off, or will die off soon.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]There were 200? I understand that is exactly the lowest genetic pool limit for avoiding unsustainable inbreeding. They are likely dying off, if not already gone.
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
I was really worried during covid. I hope they are doing okay
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They have boats that can cross the ocean. If they wanted to get to us they could. But they definitely have a strong enough memory of us as outsiders coming in and ruining the civilization of neighboring sentinelese tribes. So I think they probably want to stay far, far from us.
How noble of you to speak on their behalf.
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I was really worried during covid. I hope they are doing okay
wrote on last edited by [email protected]They're so isolated it wouldn't have reached them. There was no landings between 2018 and 2025, per the Wiki. Maybe they noticed less air traffic than usual.
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
The Indian government monitors them, and seems to think they're doing alright.
IIRC the guy from 2018 was an enormous tool that harassed them for a couple months, so maybe they're just keeping their distance from this tool.
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They pretty famously kill people who come ashore and try to make contact. They don't engage with people who are stranded other than to leave them food (according to one account of shipwrecked sailors, and I don't have the article).
These people had a rough go the first contact they had, they haven't been receptive since.
Just leave them the fuck alone.
Well, not immediately. Usually they have to be pissed off pretty well first.
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How noble of you to speak on their behalf.
how petty of you to assume they 'need' modern problems.
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How noble of you to speak on their behalf.
I come from Texas where we have a proud tradition of shooting solicitors for knocking too loud. I very much empathise with the Sentinelese. Leave them the fuck alone. They have been there for 50 thousand years. Let them be.
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There are dozens of islands in that chain and it is protected water - no one is allowed to go there without explicit permission from the Indian government. The idea is they want to be left alone. They have wanted to be left alone but the fucking British couldn't take no for an answer and constantly raped, abducted and murdered them with guns and disease for decades. Their population cratered because of the disease and now they are a tiny fraction of what they were. Just let them be. Our world has too many problems and if they can be happy living in makeshift huts with no cellphones then that's the best humanity can get.
I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
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How noble of you to speak on their behalf.
I think their arrows and spears speak pretty plainly.
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
Maybe we should send someone to check. A Missionary or something.
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Maybe we should send someone to check. A Missionary or something.
or maybe a president...
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I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
What's your point? We don't have to manifest destiny every single plot of land and genocide every non-white people on the fucking planet. They can live how they want to.
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I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
Irrelevant. The argument is to leave them alone. That argument does not hinge on a glamorized version of native peoples.
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It looks like the last verified contact with them has been in 2018. Recently a youtuber went there and tried to get their attention, but couldn't find them.
Is it possible they're not even still around? Maybe a disease found its way onto their island and took them out. It could have even been from the last visitor in 2018.
They survived the 2004 tsunami just fine. They've probably been there for thousands of years. They are probably just fine, don't need our help, and made it clear they aren't interested in our help.
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I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
Who mentioned that it was a garden of Eden?
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Maybe we should send someone to check. A Missionary or something.
The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.
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The missionary could introduce bacteria for which they have no immunity. Bad idea. They've been too isolated.
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Your argument absolutely has merit. However the opposite is that there might be people there who are aware there's maybe way more to their small world, and want nothing more than to see it.
I care more about the latter, but mainly because that's how I would think. If we found out there's an alien superhighway passing over earth hidden from us, and they're keeping us "protected" and not allowing contact, I'd be very pissed off. I immediately would want to leave, meet the aliens, learn their ways and knowledge, etc...
Just sayin', it can go both ways. Ya never know if you don't talk to them.
Also, it seems kind of morbid and archaic in a way, keeping them protected. Not like a zoo by any means, but still. If we knew for certain they all wanted to be left alone, that'd be better.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]"I thought there'd be so much more to having sex with her, so I just decided to do it. Can't you see my good intentions?"
Alternatively:
"My need to know what it's like is more important than respecting her bodily autonomy."
/s for abject morons
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I watched a documentary on tribes in Papa New Guinea..... FYI it was NOT a garden of eden. They were constantly killing each other, fighting off famine, dealt with health problems raw.
Did not look as glamorized as our western brains imagine it to be.
I think we need to give them unrestricted internet access and a porsche
