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  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ [email protected]

    You know, you can just say "supernaturalism" instead of "religion". The two are not synonymous. You can have religion without supernaturalism, such as non-theistic Satanism and some forms of Buddhism. You can have supernaturalism without religion, which describes many New-Agers. I'm sure you've heard people say "I'm spiritual, but not religious", and that's what they mean by that. There are people who believe in souls and reincarnation and stuff like that, but they don't have a religion built around it.

    In the case of non-theistic Satanism, there is a moral code, a set of beliefs, and a community of people with shared values, as well as holidays and rituals. Just nothing supernatural.

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    You cannot, but please do show this supposedly zero make-believe form of Buddhism.

    In the case of non-theistic Satanism, there is a moral code, a set of beliefs, and a community of people with shared values, as well as holidays and rituals. Just nothing supernatural.

    Exactly, it's a club not a religion.

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    • don@lemmy.caD [email protected]

      Admittedly, ignorance respects no particular faith. That said, Christianity does seem to have quite the stranglehold on it.

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      I don't view christianity as a real religion tbh. Maybe way back when it was but nowadays it's just a way for fragile suburbanites to justify their victim complex and bigotry.

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        Yeah also japanese people shit rainbows

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          Yeah also japanese people shit rainbows

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          Only if everyone else around them are doing it.

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            I don't view christianity as a real religion tbh. Maybe way back when it was but nowadays it's just a way for fragile suburbanites to justify their victim complex and bigotry.

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            That's how most "real" religions are.

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              #133

              What's going on with the math here? Percent per 100'000?

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              • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                That's how most "real" religions are.

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                Oh yeah 100%. I was just going in on Christianity specifically since that was what was mentioned.

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                  Yeah also japanese people shit rainbows

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                  Well when they stop shitting those rainbows into little holes dug into the ground give me a call

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                  • J [email protected]

                    MAGA exists over there, too.

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                    Bigots are everywhere. But japanese want to make America great again?

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                      What's going on with the math here? Percent per 100'000?

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                      That's what you have to use because they have fewer people per capita. It's basic math.

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                      • don@lemmy.caD [email protected]

                        Admittedly, ignorance respects no particular faith. That said, Christianity does seem to have quite the stranglehold on it.

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                        That's because you see more of them. Or at least what passes for christian in the US. Rest assured that the others are more than keeping pace.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Do you want to talk about Satan?

                          We enjoy sex, responsible drug use and rock and roll.

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                          Anybody who rebels against the biblical god has the right idea.

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                          • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            That's what you have to use because they have fewer people per capita. It's basic math.

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                            But usually, you have total numbers per 100k and that's the percents. % is parts of hundred, no matter what.

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                              But usually, you have total numbers per 100k and that's the percents. % is parts of hundred, no matter what.

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                              Yes, there just shouldn't be a percentage sign. It's not a percentage. The value is probably around 5 something per 100k.

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                                Apparently the moonies don't help things.

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                                The weird thing is that they're supposed to be Korean, and they're historically not fond of one another. But then, anything to make a buck yen.

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                                  I don't view christianity as a real religion tbh. Maybe way back when it was but nowadays it's just a way for fragile suburbanites to justify their victim complex and bigotry.

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                                  I would specify that the views and practices of modern religious have probably diverged to a very likely large extent from that of their founding predecessors, but I’d also imagine those same predecessors also used religion to justify their victim complexes and bigotries. The two groups, separated by many thousands of years, seem to have much the same underlying mentalities.

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                                  • J [email protected]

                                    Wait, wait, wait.

                                    Talk all the shit you want about how people twist the meanings of the book/religion, there are some very good stories in the Bible.

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                                    but the stories! The poetry!

                                    They're not that good, though. Some of them sorta stand up as mediocre. Compare them to an anthology by, like, le'guinn, known more as a novelist who could maintain consistent characters plot themes and tone for the length of a fucking novel. You know who fucking wins.

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                                    • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                                      You cannot, but please do show this supposedly zero make-believe form of Buddhism.

                                      In the case of non-theistic Satanism, there is a moral code, a set of beliefs, and a community of people with shared values, as well as holidays and rituals. Just nothing supernatural.

                                      Exactly, it's a club not a religion.

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                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Buddhism

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                                      • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Buddhism

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                                        Lol, '50s seppo hippie shit? I was expecting something a bit more real and legitimate.

                                        I'd say that's equally as much a club and not a religion as satanism is if that's the case.

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                                        • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                                          Look it's cool that you're in a philosophical moral club, but don't go around defending religion by calling yourself a religion and saying 'look at me as an example of a good religion' when you don't actually hold religious/supranatural beliefs.

                                          And if you do hold such beliefs, don't claim you accept reality.

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                                          That's a controversial take.

                                          As far as I'm concerned, TST is only a "religion" on the books as a basic requirement for them to insert themselves into all of the places that religion, specifically Christianity, is inserted into by government, so they can demonstrate the hypocrisy of the "leadership" that was elected.

                                          Also, having a belief that there isn't anything in the great beyond, is still a belief. You can have a belief without denying reality/Science. None of these things are mutually exclusive. I'm saddened that you don't seem to believe that.

                                          At the end of the day, I see anyone identifying as a satanist under TST to be doing advocacy work on behalf of nonbelievers, since most governments would rather deny all religious symbols/rituals/information from government than allow "Satanists" a platform. Their actions unilaterally has eliminated, mitigated, or otherwise diminished the involvement of any one particular sky daddy from government. It's a worthwhile thing to be done.

                                          You're entitled to an opinion, even if everyone else disagrees, so think whatever you want. I don't agree that you can't be agnostic/atheist and be a part of a "religion". You absolutely can.

                                          Even the lack of a belief is, in and of itself, a belief.

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