Serious question: Do the republicans in office want to go back to the America of the 50's or am I trying to make sense of it by thinking too simple?
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I do not think that they are pure technocrats. I think they do want to make an American empire, which has a spiritual and religious component to it.
What's a pure technocrat? Technocracy wants to control all aspects of life, they want the tech oligarchs in charge, they want to be generally isolationist and carve up the world into blocs
That's how these people act. That's where they focus, that's what they hint and feel out responses for. This is the roadmap they're using
Spirituality? Religion? Patriotism? These things are a veneer to fascists. They don't believe in any of that, hell they generally don't even believe in Technocracy... This is a means to an end
They're Fascists. They don't believe in anything but power and using it against their enemies
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
I don't think the America of the 50s is what they think it is.
The ideal though is being able to afford a house, a car and a family all on one wage.
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I think they want to remove Atheism and all associated things with it from society. Trump calls himself christian, and his followers (voter base) are evangelical Christians.
Evangelical Christians ...
- believe once Israel builds a temple the judgement day comes
- all people who do not believe in Jesus is the personified God (or something like that) will go to eternal hell
- believe in free market capitalism and hate all kinds of communism and state control in economy (even science)
And these evangelical gospels align well with Trump.
- believe once Israel builds a temple the judgement day comes
Not true, that's zionism.
- believe in free market capitalism and hate all kinds of communism and state control in economy (even science)
Also not true.
It's an overlap. Those two things have nothing to do with Evangelical Christianity.
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1850's? Yes.
1750s. They are monarchist fucks.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
It is silly. You do not go back to the America of the 50's without the rest of the world being in the 50's.
See Europe and most of the world other than America destroying itself in the second world war, and the Bretton Woods agreement.
Boomers were able to buy a house on one income because they took a load of the world's income because of how America exploited the world post WW2.
This does not happen now.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
Yes but also, the 1950s here were a time of social backlash. In the 1940s women were wearing bold red lipstick (because Hitler vocally didn't like it) and engaging heavily in the economy even in male dominated fields because so many men were in the military that we couldn't keep the country going otherwise. Meanwhile the men were fighting side by side in desegregated units.
So war ends, and a decent portion of the returning soldiers think things are going to return to normal. But the women got a taste of the freedom of economic independence and black men got a taste of being treated less awfully. The white men feel emasculated. But the benefits of the new deal are here and so a single man can support a family and even move to the all white suburbs on his income thanks to his union job, veteran benefits, and government assistance meant to prevent another period of mass poverty. And this is ignoring the whole deal of how LGBT issues were impacted by the war and its end. Also the second red scare and lavender scare (McCarthyism) happened in the late 40s-early 50s.
And so yeah while you have some counterculture movements in the 50s like beatnicks, biker and leather clubs, the mattachine society, and greasers as well as fighting for black civil rights, the 50s were largely defined by the reactionary forces as the discontent built. The 60s didn't spring up out of nowhere.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
They want something closer to what Pinochet or Franco had going on
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
1850s, maybe.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Judging by how they want Jim Crow-era laws back, we can assume they want the 1870 ~ 1959 period back.
But honestly, they are fascists. They want do what the Nazis did except more Amercianized. Sure we won't have dedicated labor camps or extermination camps in our country. But, we'll happily blitz through laws to be passed that'll make it harder and harder for LGBTQ people to have rights. Don't like middle-class? No problem! We'll just orchestrate a system with our trusty friend, Capitalism, that'll make it harder for things to be affordable for them.
Laws? What laws? lol, only for those who can't afford to break them. Rules and Accountability? Lol, what's that? That's only for those people who're tied to this silly concept called morals and karma.
That's America for you.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
They want to bring 'back' the NAZI America that never was because Americans back then fought back against Fascism.
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I am not from America and lives in Europe. I am trying to understand what life and values the republicans in office right now wants for America. Is the 50's America the kind of country they hope to go back to or is it somewhat of a new state we have never seen before?
I am genuinely wondering if they have some kind of "utopian" community in mind doing all these changes to the economy and values.
Ever since Rush Limbaugh, the Republican strategy has been to oppose everything the Democrats do.
It's the only way they can stay relevant.
