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Split Keyboards Are Superior And The Reason I’m The Writer I Am Today.

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    That's ok, insanity comes in many forms.

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    When I was a kid, I got my hands on a PS/2 Y-adapter and so typed on two keyboards - left hand on one in my desk, left hand on one on a keyboard tray. I don't know what my typing speed and accuracy were then, but a few years back an entire office of people tried to beat me in a typing test and couldn't. Since then I've taken a typing test on a laptop while sitting in a hotel bed and gotten a score of 158 with, IIRC, 98.2% accuracy. (This was my best score but even since then all of my typing evaluations have gone well.)

    I also use a trackball as exclusively as my environment allows, including while gaming (other than Minecraft). I'm not remotely a pro, but among my peers I tend to score highly in, for example, FPS'.

    I'm not trying to brag; there are many better than I in both categories. The reason I bring these up is to demonstrate that something being the convention doesn't automatically make it better and something being unfit for your preferences doesn't make it inferior.

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      Where's the rest of the keys? Also these things give off Nintendo Power Glove vibes.

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      It uses layers, the same way a phone keyboard has a separate layer for numbers and symbols. Holding down one of the three thumb keys on either side activates a new layer. Since you can use your thumb and fingers at the same time, there’s no lose in typing speed. Indeed, the layout puts numbers and symbols closer to the home row on a layer than using a physical number number.

      For all symbols, you would have needed a shift-modifier to access those before. With this design, the symbols are closer but use a layer switch key instead of a shift key to access them.

      Everyone who uses a phone keyboard has learned a new compact keyboard layout. It’s not so hard.

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        When I was a kid, I got my hands on a PS/2 Y-adapter and so typed on two keyboards - left hand on one in my desk, left hand on one on a keyboard tray. I don't know what my typing speed and accuracy were then, but a few years back an entire office of people tried to beat me in a typing test and couldn't. Since then I've taken a typing test on a laptop while sitting in a hotel bed and gotten a score of 158 with, IIRC, 98.2% accuracy. (This was my best score but even since then all of my typing evaluations have gone well.)

        I also use a trackball as exclusively as my environment allows, including while gaming (other than Minecraft). I'm not remotely a pro, but among my peers I tend to score highly in, for example, FPS'.

        I'm not trying to brag; there are many better than I in both categories. The reason I bring these up is to demonstrate that something being the convention doesn't automatically make it better and something being unfit for your preferences doesn't make it inferior.

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        Which trackball? I was looking at them the other day but couldn't decide

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          Imagine having a keyboard like this, and still needing to be guided through a system settings menu.

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          I mean yes but no. Back at some old job all the devs had the local admin password so we could do things like install drivers for bluetooth dongles on our own (I said "old job", didn't I) and usually everything was fine but at some point my machine just barfed, it would neither install nor uninstall drivers. I called an admin because I have no idea about windows internals. They were ecstatic, finally, an actual problem, and not walking someone in marketing through how to write an email. Some regedit magic later the problem was solved, and yes I had layout switching ready on the taskbar.

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          • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzC [email protected]

            I don't have this experience, I am briefly confused for a second and then it's fine, are you sure this lasts more than like 30 seconds?

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            When I'm forced into a qwerty situation it's not just 30 seconds, I simply can't touch-type qwerty and my current qwerty skills are way slower than 25 years ago where I had reached peak seven-and-a-half-fingers hunt-and-peck performance. In principle I should know where all the keys are, still, I can't find them without looking.

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              When I'm forced into a qwerty situation it's not just 30 seconds, I simply can't touch-type qwerty and my current qwerty skills are way slower than 25 years ago where I had reached peak seven-and-a-half-fingers hunt-and-peck performance. In principle I should know where all the keys are, still, I can't find them without looking.

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              ah, i was already a ~120wpm typist on qwerty when i switched to dvorak, so, that might have something to do with it.

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              • simplejack@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                You will encounter this man at work.

                They will ask for your help with something on their workstation, and it would be faster for you to drive with them watching over your shoulder, but this cryptic thing is their keyboard.

                Instead, you will be forced to sit behind them like Patrick Swayze guiding Demi Moore at a throwing wheel. You will eventually take your shirt off, launch Unchained Melody in Spotify, then slowly guide them through a system setting panel.

                You will notice how soft their hands feel. The hyper-ergonomic keyboard has allowed their fingers to move with minimal effort, allowing the skin to remain as supple, smooth - almost unused.

                You will ask yourself, “Is he right?” How could a keyboard be so aggressive and wrong, and yet, support something so gentile.

                You try to deny the feeling. Your friends and family will mock you like your uncle Dvorak. Maybe you start with a trackball and see if being naughty feels right.

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                I just keep the company keyboard on a drawer for the IT guy. I never thought all that I could be missing hahahaha

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                  I'm going through this currently trying to find a privacy respecting Android keyboard.

                  Latest effort is Futo, recommended by a coworker. So far, I don't like it.

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                  As a fellow Futo user: it's not great out of the box. My biggest recommendations are:

                  • under Languages and models, download all the voice models (if you use those), transformers, and wordlists you can for your languages
                  • if you use multiple languages, set the check on "multilingual typing" for ALL of those languages
                  • this is probably the biggest one: in text prediction -> Advanced Parameters, DRASTICALLY change the values. The original ones are 3.4 and 4.0 for LLM strength and autocorrect threshold, mine are currently set at 28.5 and 0.8, respectively. This takes the autocorrect from "occasionally working" to "as good as SwiftKey" for me.
                  • Keyboard and Typing -> Long Press -> Show hints. Could not find that for ages so thought I'd add it here.

                  Also, two super useful shortcuts: you can press the space-bar and move your finger around to move the pointer; and the same for backspace to fine-control what to delete.

                  Hope this helps, but if not... What additional gripes do you habe with it?

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                    Which trackball? I was looking at them the other day but couldn't decide

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                    My favorite has always been the Kensington Orbit. Probably a lot of people - even those who like Trackballs - would disagree, but I've been happily using these for around 25 years. Except in Minecraft.

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                        As a fellow Futo user: it's not great out of the box. My biggest recommendations are:

                        • under Languages and models, download all the voice models (if you use those), transformers, and wordlists you can for your languages
                        • if you use multiple languages, set the check on "multilingual typing" for ALL of those languages
                        • this is probably the biggest one: in text prediction -> Advanced Parameters, DRASTICALLY change the values. The original ones are 3.4 and 4.0 for LLM strength and autocorrect threshold, mine are currently set at 28.5 and 0.8, respectively. This takes the autocorrect from "occasionally working" to "as good as SwiftKey" for me.
                        • Keyboard and Typing -> Long Press -> Show hints. Could not find that for ages so thought I'd add it here.

                        Also, two super useful shortcuts: you can press the space-bar and move your finger around to move the pointer; and the same for backspace to fine-control what to delete.

                        Hope this helps, but if not... What additional gripes do you habe with it?

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                        This seems like a good starting point. Thank you for the recommendations; I'll reach out with potential future gripes.

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                          I think one of my favorite keyboards ever was a Microsoft “Natural” keyboard. I think they were available in the mid ’90s or so. Not quite a real split keyboard, but the ergonomics were great. I think I gave it away…it was great for typing, but I wanted a simpler keyboard for gaming.

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                            My favorite has always been the Kensington Orbit. Probably a lot of people - even those who like Trackballs - would disagree, but I've been happily using these for around 25 years. Except in Minecraft.

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                            Why are you so vehemently opposed to the use of trackballs in minecraft?

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                              Recently bought a CharaChorder, haven't mastered it yet but it is promising.

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                                Why are you so vehemently opposed to the use of trackballs in minecraft?

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                                I wouldn't characterize it as vehemence, but rather a combination of consistency and honesty. People are fairly consistently surprised at my enthusiasm for gaming with trackballs, as though it's automatically a detriment; I don't find it to be so, except in Minecraft, so I don't want to represent it as other than it is.

                                With the style of trackball I use - ball in the middle, left and right click on their respective sides of the ball - and the way I use it - thumb on left click, index and middle finger on the ball, ring and pinky on right click - right clicking can be a stressor. This isn't a problem when tapping once or holding, such as when engaging a scope; but when repeatedly right clicking, it tires whatever muscles and tendons run between the outside of my hand and my shoulder, which already has its own problems.

                                Minecraft is the only game I play that requires me to repeatedly right click. (I know that now you can right click and drag to place lots of blocks, but that hasn't always been true and doesn't really allow for precision in my experience.) Therefore, it is the only game to which I feel my trackball is not well suited.

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                                  Fun fact: that's Elijah Wood and it's his first film role

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                                    I think one of my favorite keyboards ever was a Microsoft “Natural” keyboard. I think they were available in the mid ’90s or so. Not quite a real split keyboard, but the ergonomics were great. I think I gave it away…it was great for typing, but I wanted a simpler keyboard for gaming.

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                                    I use a knock off ergonomic keyboard from adesso. 60% of the time, it works every time.

                                    You can still get them on Amazon for like $40 if you ever decide you want to relive the split key glory days.

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                                      I've used plenty of ergo keyboards and fancy layouts, but as soon as I try to use a regular keyboard I have to re-learn how to type and it really halts any productivity.

                                      This sort of thing may be nice if you only ever use one computer or you're willing to pack around your keyboard.

                                      Even still, I never liked ergo boards enough to think it's worth the effort, especially considering being useless on other keyboards once I'm used to ergo.

                                      Now I just stick to a 75% or TKL. Keeps me versatile.

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                                      I just got my keyboard in and I explicitly got one that I can easily take places so it won't be an issue.

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                                        Split keyboard + a tiling window manager made my life better

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                                        What WM if I may ask.

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                                        • simplejack@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          You will encounter this man at work.

                                          They will ask for your help with something on their workstation, and it would be faster for you to drive with them watching over your shoulder, but this cryptic thing is their keyboard.

                                          Instead, you will be forced to sit behind them like Patrick Swayze guiding Demi Moore at a throwing wheel. You will eventually take your shirt off, launch Unchained Melody in Spotify, then slowly guide them through a system setting panel.

                                          You will notice how soft their hands feel. The hyper-ergonomic keyboard has allowed their fingers to move with minimal effort, allowing the skin to remain as supple, smooth - almost unused.

                                          You will ask yourself, “Is he right?” How could a keyboard be so aggressive and wrong, and yet, support something so gentile.

                                          You try to deny the feeling. Your friends and family will mock you like your uncle Dvorak. Maybe you start with a trackball and see if being naughty feels right.

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                                          I used to know a person who used this line to describe one thing about themselves: “I use Dvorak layout..”

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