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      100% fucked.

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        My screen timeout is a minute, so they likely can't get very far before bumping the side button or just not babysitting it for 60 seconds and needing a long password or fingerprint. Any app worth looking at needs a fingerprint as well, so even if unlocked, not super valuable short of a highly coordinated, personally targeted attack. In which case Pegasus would be easier and faster.

        Plus, I always "pull over" and hold my phone with two hands when in a busy public place.

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          My phone/Android is supposed to have theft protection, meaning it will lock itself if it detects a fast movement like it being snatched out of my hand. If that doesn't work, I'd have to get home to lock it I guess.

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            Anything worth protecting uses 2FA and they wouldn't have my Yubikey so ... yeah, I'd be fine. Annoyed, but fine.

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              Somewhat fucked, but not to a terminal degree.

              Privacy: The thief would gain access to graphic material of my partner and I doing naked things that would confuse grandparents and excite therapists.

              Security: My phone is logged into my emails l, so I'd have to react quickly to cut it off.

              2fa: No issues, as I can easily migrate to a different device.

              Billing: No issue. It takes 5 seconds to block the SIM.

              My main concern is the short-lived email access they would gain. While the inbox does not contain anything horrible, they would be able to reset some passwords, so if my phone was stolen my number one priorities would be to get it my PC to lock out and erase the phone, change mail password, and check All of my user accounts whether they'd been compromised.

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                Nice try Mr. Thief !

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                  It auto-locks in 15 seconds.

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                    I use Private Lock. It uses gyro to detect sudden movements and lock the phone based on that.

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                      Somewhat fucked, but not to a terminal degree.

                      Privacy: The thief would gain access to graphic material of my partner and I doing naked things that would confuse grandparents and excite therapists.

                      Security: My phone is logged into my emails l, so I'd have to react quickly to cut it off.

                      2fa: No issues, as I can easily migrate to a different device.

                      Billing: No issue. It takes 5 seconds to block the SIM.

                      My main concern is the short-lived email access they would gain. While the inbox does not contain anything horrible, they would be able to reset some passwords, so if my phone was stolen my number one priorities would be to get it my PC to lock out and erase the phone, change mail password, and check All of my user accounts whether they'd been compromised.

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                      I don't know if you are on Android or Ios, but on Ios you can require face ID to access certain apps. My mail application also requires face ID to open.

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                        Real phone in my bag hotspotting for a burner I pull out in public is how I did things when I was paranoid.

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                          I never unlock my phone if anyone is nearby. Yes, I look around first before unlocking.

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                            I'm so done.

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                              Is this a thing, like are most thiefs not interested in selling the hardware?

                              To answer the question: Id be pretty fckd i guess. Passwords are gated behind a password manager but my E-Mail would be exposed.

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                                If they somehow managed to get it to not auto lock after 60 sec then I'd have to change passwords on 3 different emails.

                                Worst thing they would have is my browser history.

                                They can't transfer any money without my fingerprint or password to the app.

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                                  I run my own NAS and Nextcloud server. Most of the data on my phone is synced there.

                                  So I am somewhat prepared for the loss of my phone, but not really for the possibility of someone else using it (accounts etc).

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                                    Is this a thing, like are most thiefs not interested in selling the hardware?

                                    To answer the question: Id be pretty fckd i guess. Passwords are gated behind a password manager but my E-Mail would be exposed.

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                                    Hardware is good, but why not have both?

                                    Imei Blacklisting makes them not very valuable anyways. Data worth a lot more.

                                    Btw someone got a fradulent copy of my mother's ID somehow. Like not a "fake id", an actual real government issued ID, but fraudulently obtained mailed to some random address. They started trying to access money in banks, then tried sim swapping [edit: The sim swapping actually worked. Calls from my mother's phone stopped working and other lines in the same family plan got a notification, so my parents went to the phone company and removed my mother's name from the account and replaced the sim. As for the bank accounts, they closed and reopened the accounts with new account numbers and they had a note in there to double check the picture (which is still of my mother's) and address on there (which the fradulent ID had a different address). They never managed to take any money. But it wasted a lot of time.]

                                    So like, its a thing that happens. People think "identity theft won't happen to me, I'm not important enough", then someone steals your identity. These things never gets investigated. They said "we'll investigate" but like a year later, not a word from those "investigators".Only if you steal from the rich do any investigation gets done. They don't care about the average person.

                                    TLDR: Protect your data. Identity theft is actually common.

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                                      They would have to turn on airplane mode quick while they were running because as soon as it has data, I'd have their location and my phone would've already been marked lost / stolen by my watch and queued for factory reset.

                                      While in airplane mode there really wouldn't be much they could do. Anything useful is locked by Face ID. They could see my calendar and my most boring emails. They would have no passwords.

                                      The phone itself would be useless as a phone as it couldn't be used in another carrier.

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                                        They would have to turn on airplane mode quick while they were running because as soon as it has data, I'd have their location and my phone would've already been marked lost / stolen by my watch and queued for factory reset.

                                        While in airplane mode there really wouldn't be much they could do. Anything useful is locked by Face ID. They could see my calendar and my most boring emails. They would have no passwords.

                                        The phone itself would be useless as a phone as it couldn't be used in another carrier.

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                                        I mean, that's kinda the point of this question: How quickly can you issue a wipe command to your phone?

                                        If you only have one phone no backup phones, now quickly can you access a internet device to issue a wipe command? And will you even remember the google/apple account password quickly enough in such a stressful moment?

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                                          I run my own NAS and Nextcloud server. Most of the data on my phone is synced there.

                                          So I am somewhat prepared for the loss of my phone, but not really for the possibility of someone else using it (accounts etc).

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                                          This is such an important distinction to make. Being able to wipe the phone would require a second device, so unless you are with someone who has access to that phone, you have to wait until you get home to initiate it.

                                          Iirc my pixel has a "in case your phone is stolen from you" automation. Though I don't know the mechanics of how it works.

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