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How is federated social media better?

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  • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

    I found myself chatting with my dad and brought up the topic. I couldn't come up with any actual advantages a federated platforms had. The main reason I use any federated platforms is because they're either not as enshittified as the alternatives or run by huge dickwads. Since it mostly fits those criteria, I'm on Bluesky too, but once that goes I'll either switch to another un-shittified platform or Mastodon.

    But on its own, what advantage does a federated social media have?

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    Aside from the theoretical reasons, which are great, it feels like on the federated services there's less speaking at people, and more actual conversations.

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      It isn't. It just aligns better with the privacy preferences of some people.

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      Which is kinda funny, because from what I gather, it's even less private than some of the large social networks. (everyone can see everything vs one entity sees everything, but no one else).

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      • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

        I found myself chatting with my dad and brought up the topic. I couldn't come up with any actual advantages a federated platforms had. The main reason I use any federated platforms is because they're either not as enshittified as the alternatives or run by huge dickwads. Since it mostly fits those criteria, I'm on Bluesky too, but once that goes I'll either switch to another un-shittified platform or Mastodon.

        But on its own, what advantage does a federated social media have?

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        Lemm.ee is shutting down. The Fediverse still exists.

        If Reddit shuts down, welp.

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        • kemsat@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

          Federated social media is decentralized, so one single jackass can’t control it completely.

          Like, maybe Elon Musk buys pawb.social, he now controls pawb.social & can be a tyrant in pawb.social just like he has been with Twitter.

          He still can’t control quokk.au, or lemmy.world, or feddit.org, or lemmy.ca, or lemmy.dbzer0.com, or lemmy.blahaj.zone, etc.

          And in the extremely unlikely event that if Elon does manage to buy pawb.social, it is extremely likely that many lemmy servers would just defederate from pawb.social & leave pawb.social isolated from the rest of the fediverse.

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          missing a word in your first sentence

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          • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

            I found myself chatting with my dad and brought up the topic. I couldn't come up with any actual advantages a federated platforms had. The main reason I use any federated platforms is because they're either not as enshittified as the alternatives or run by huge dickwads. Since it mostly fits those criteria, I'm on Bluesky too, but once that goes I'll either switch to another un-shittified platform or Mastodon.

            But on its own, what advantage does a federated social media have?

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            Spez isn't in full control. (Slimy little worm.)

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            • N [email protected]

              Good point: Look at lemmy - kbin - piefed. The guy behind kbin thought "lemmy is nice but I could make something better", and then whoever is behind mbin saw that and said "I can make kbin better" and forked it. But without starting over in terms of connectivity or content! And now we have piefed which is on the edge of being even better and it's still introperable. The power of that can't be undersold.

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              I think that's basically the whole point. Or if someone would rather use Mastodon - look, the lemmy userbase is there as well!

              Piefed, Mbin and Lemmy aren't necessarily aggressively competing like X and Bluesky are. It's moreso friendly cooperation. Sure, if the fediverse was a bit more commercialised, you'd have competition. But it would be fairer competition based on how good your Software and ethics are and not on who else is also using the app.

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              • stinky@redlemmy.comS [email protected]

                missing a word in your first sentence

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                Oops, my bad. Thanks. It’s been corrected.

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                • F [email protected]

                  Lemm.ee is shutting down. The Fediverse still exists.

                  If Reddit shuts down, welp.

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                  If Reddit shuts down, welp.

                  nelsonlaugh.gif

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                  • inkstainthebat@pawb.socialI [email protected]

                    I found myself chatting with my dad and brought up the topic. I couldn't come up with any actual advantages a federated platforms had. The main reason I use any federated platforms is because they're either not as enshittified as the alternatives or run by huge dickwads. Since it mostly fits those criteria, I'm on Bluesky too, but once that goes I'll either switch to another un-shittified platform or Mastodon.

                    But on its own, what advantage does a federated social media have?

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                    Preventing one single entity from having too much control over information to the extent that they can push propaganda and dominate a narrative.

                    Decentralization leads to better (I didn't say perfect) democratization of social media.

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                      It takes power away from the hands of corporations.

                      Sorry you got suckered into choosing bluesky over Mastodon. Hopefully you'll learn one day.

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                      I do plan on switching to Mastodon. Once Bluesky gets too enshittified I'm moving, but right now there's too few people to cater to my specific interests

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