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What are your thoughts on people who call others transphobic for saying that transracial (eg a white person identifying as black) isn't a thing?

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    I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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      I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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      Sounds like Nazis trying to bait people and/or bots. Don't fall for the conflation.

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        I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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        I think they're morons and trolls.

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          I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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          Trolls trying to argue in bad faith.

          They use the fact that both race and gender are social constructs to try and trap you in a contradiction. Which is technically correct but their argument doesn't come from a desire for a good outcome in either case.

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            I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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            Maybe trans racial is a bad term. It used to be called passing, such as a biracial person passing as white. In America's hateful past, it was more of a mechanism to access goods and services only available to white people.

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              I don't have a Xitter account but I was browsing it this morning and I saw people arguing that if you don't believe transracial is valid then you're transphobic

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              Bait used to be believable...

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                Maybe trans racial is a bad term. It used to be called passing, such as a biracial person passing as white. In America's hateful past, it was more of a mechanism to access goods and services only available to white people.

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                That's not what they mean. They're not talking about lightskin Black folks, they're talking about white people who "identify" as Black, like that one lady from a few years ago.

                Which is basically the only example I know of

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                  Trolls trying to argue in bad faith.

                  They use the fact that both race and gender are social constructs to try and trap you in a contradiction. Which is technically correct but their argument doesn't come from a desire for a good outcome in either case.

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                  While I don't disagree that this point is almost exclusively made by trolls, the way you've phrased this implies you think they're correct in pointing out that it's a contradiction to no support trans-racial people.

                  Trans-racial people clearly exist to some small degree (Rachel Dolozov being the famous example). Should people be defending her choice to identify as black, since race is just a social construct?

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                    Trolls trying to argue in bad faith.

                    They use the fact that both race and gender are social constructs to try and trap you in a contradiction. Which is technically correct but their argument doesn't come from a desire for a good outcome in either case.

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                    Trolls trying to argue in bad faith.

                    The brand new accounts that keep asking this same question over and over again?

                    Yeah. They're absolutely trolling this sub...

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