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  • M [email protected]

    Yes, it is your fault for thinking you know better than centuries of plumbing experience. Pull your head out of your ass and stop pouring grease and melted fat down the sink, you inept heathen.

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    #207

    Why should I give one single shit about any of this?

    Because some random on the internet said so in a shitposting thread?

    I pay taxes so they keep the goddamn gutters running, if they're made badly and aren't fit for purpose - wastewater from washing fucking dishes - just make them better.

    It's not rocket science, but the approach is the same - you don't bitch about space being hard - you build better rockets, better fuels, better calculators for trajectories and so on.

    If you that concerned with grease maybe consider taking a shower. I'd rather flush grease down the drain than my one life like some of y'all.

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      Oddly enough, this "clogged heart" "fact" is slowly being debunked by individual groups of scientists who are not sponsored by any food, tobacco or pharma industry.

      I might have the urge to look for this paper I read about 2 years ago. Long story short: the unsaturated fats bind with sugar to form the small cholesterol molecules that can lead to blockages, while saturated fats form large cholesterol molecules that are used as a means of transport on the blood.

      But nevertheless more research has to be done.

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      No, it is not being debunked. People are just being fooled by the constant onslaught of industry-backed disinformation. The role of high saturated fat to unsaturated fat intake on cardiovascular disease is one of the most thoroughly tested areas of nutritional health, and the consensus from real experts is that saturated fat intake absolutely progresses cvd.

      https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/saturated-fats

      "There’s a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not?

      The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats to less than 6% of total calories. Saturated fats are found in butter, cheese, red meat, other animal-based foods and tropical oils. Decades science has proven that saturated fats can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

      The more important thing to remember is the overall dietary pattern. Saturated fats are just one piece of the puzzle. Eating more fruits, vegetables and whole grains is a way to achieve an overall healthy eating pattern.

      When you hear about the latest “diet of the day” or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence."

      https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good

      (...) "Is saturated fat bad for you? A diet rich in saturated fats can drive up total cholesterol, and tip the balance toward more harmful LDL cholesterol, which prompts blockages to form in arteries in the heart and elsewhere in the body. For that reason, most nutrition experts recommend limiting saturated fat to under 10% of calories a day."

      (...) "Eating polyunsaturated fats in place of saturated fats or highly refined carbohydrates reduces harmful LDL cholesterol and improves the cholesterol profile. It also lowers triglycerides."

      And I'm choosing to focus on meta-analyses here to highlight the sheer volume of studies that have, and continue to be done on this subject.

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39523824/

      "Results: Fourteen studies were included in the systematic review and seven in the meta-analysis. Our results showed an association between OO consumption and reduction in all-cause mortality (HR: 0.85; 95% CI: 0.80-0.91), cardiovascular mortality (HR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.76-0.93) and cancer mortality (HR: 0.89; 95% CI: 0.86-0.93). Conclusions: Consumption of OO particularly reduces cardiovascular mortality (16%), followed by all-cause mortality (15%) and cancer mortality (11%) in the adult population. However, further studies are needed to clarify the underlying mechanisms."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30006369/

      "Fifty-four trials were included in the NMA. Safflower oil had the highest SUCRA value for LDL-C (82%) and TC (90%), followed by rapeseed oil (76% for LDL-C, 85% for TC); whereas, palm oil (74%) had the highest SUCRA value for TG, and coconut oil (88%) for HDL-C. Safflower, sunflower, rapeseed, flaxseed, corn, olive, soybean, palm, and coconut oil as well beef fat were more effective in reducing LDL-C (-0.42 to -0.23 mmol/l) as compared with butter. Despite limitations in these data, our NMA findings are in line with existing evidence on the metabolic effects of fat and support current recommendations to replace high saturated-fat food with unsaturated oils."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27434027/

      "This meta-analysis of randomised controlled feeding trials provides evidence that dietary macronutrients have diverse effects on glucose-insulin homeostasis. In comparison to carbohydrate, SFA, or MUFA, most consistent favourable effects were seen with PUFA, which was linked to improved glycaemia, insulin resistance, and insulin secretion capacity."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35866510/

      "The results of this review suggest that CO consumptionhas beneficial effects on LDL-c, TC, and LDL-c/HDL-c ratio compared to OO. Therefore, its replacement with OO can have cardioprotective impacts."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37968628/

      "Our findings indicate that a shift from animal-based (e.g., red and processed meat, eggs, dairy, poultry, butter) to plant-based (e.g., nuts, legumes, whole grains, olive oil) foods is beneficially associated with cardiometabolic health and all-cause mortality."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36343558/

      "Prospective studies supported a beneficial association of olive oil consumption with CVD, T2D and all-cause mortality, but they did not show any association with cancer risk."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32428300/

      "The findings of this updated review suggest that reducing saturated fat intake for at least two years causes a potentially important reduction in combined cardiovascular events. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate appear to be useful strategies, while effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat are unclear. The reduction in combined cardiovascular events resulting from reducing saturated fat did not alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk, but greater reduction in saturated fat caused greater reductions in cardiovascular events."

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25995283/

      "Palm oil consumption results in higher LDL cholesterol than do vegetable oils low in saturated fat and higher HDL cholesterol than do trans fat-containing oils in humans. The effects of palm oil on blood lipids are as expected on the basis of its high saturated fat content, which supports the reduction in palm oil use by replacement with vegetable oils low in saturated and trans fat."

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      • S [email protected]

        Just add oil solidifier so you can throw the solidified oil into the compost or trash bin. Like FryAway or just buy the original Japanese versions which FryAway is a copy of like Katameru Tempuru

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        I wish they carried it in the markets here. I just looked it up, looks like it's just Steric Acid. You can buy a whole pound for $15.... gonna five that a try.

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        • P [email protected]

          It also fucks up the main plumbing system right down to the water treatment facility and while there, it fucks that too.

          If your taxes pay for wastewater management, you're fucking yourself up.
          If you pay in addition to your taxes, you're fucking yourself up.
          If you have your own septic tank, you're fucking yourself up.
          If it flows to the river directly and you enjoy clean nature, you're fucking yourself up.
          If it flows to the river directly and your taxes pay for nature maintenance, you're fucking yourself up.

          Grease down the drain is fucking yourself up and you deserve it. You can not win with it unless you hate everything around you and don't pay taxes.. It will come back to bite you.

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          Yup, the convenience if throwing grease down the drain is absolutely nullified by taking a half day to deal with a plumber/landlord/handyman because you can't flush a turd. Let it cool, pour it into a soda bottle.

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          • P [email protected]

            that's animal abuse!

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            #211

            No its not abuse, hes doing what he loves which is clearing drains.

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            • marighost@piefed.socialM [email protected]

              the drain can have little a grease, as a treat

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              Splash it in the face of the people who piss you off, pour it down their pants when they aren't looking, set the pan on their chest when they're asleep and set their hand in the grease. I DON'T CARE.

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                And probably buying shitty meats for starters.

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                #213

                Yeah well only a shit cook would think that oil coming off means bad meat.

                I know that people don't know fuck all about cooking, yourself included.

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                • kirsche_z@lemmy.blahaj.zoneK [email protected]

                  Splash it in the face of the people who piss you off, pour it down their pants when they aren't looking, set the pan on their chest when they're asleep and set their hand in the grease. I DON'T CARE.

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                  #214

                  I LOVE IT

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                  • C [email protected]

                    I LOVE IT

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                    #215

                    I'm making a sandwich rn. wyd?

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                      No, it is not being debunked. People are just being fooled by the constant onslaught of industry-backed disinformation. The role of high saturated fat to unsaturated fat intake on cardiovascular disease is one of the most thoroughly tested areas of nutritional health, and the consensus from real experts is that saturated fat intake absolutely progresses cvd.

                      https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/saturated-fats

                      "There’s a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not?

                      The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats to less than 6% of total calories. Saturated fats are found in butter, cheese, red meat, other animal-based foods and tropical oils. Decades science has proven that saturated fats can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

                      The more important thing to remember is the overall dietary pattern. Saturated fats are just one piece of the puzzle. Eating more fruits, vegetables and whole grains is a way to achieve an overall healthy eating pattern.

                      When you hear about the latest “diet of the day” or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence."

                      https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/the-truth-about-fats-bad-and-good

                      (...) "Is saturated fat bad for you? A diet rich in saturated fats can drive up total cholesterol, and tip the balance toward more harmful LDL cholesterol, which prompts blockages to form in arteries in the heart and elsewhere in the body. For that reason, most nutrition experts recommend limiting saturated fat to under 10% of calories a day."

                      (...) "Eating polyunsaturated fats in place of saturated fats or highly refined carbohydrates reduces harmful LDL cholesterol and improves the cholesterol profile. It also lowers triglycerides."

                      And I'm choosing to focus on meta-analyses here to highlight the sheer volume of studies that have, and continue to be done on this subject.

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39523824/

                      "Results: Fourteen studies were included in the systematic review and seven in the meta-analysis. Our results showed an association between OO consumption and reduction in all-cause mortality (HR: 0.85; 95% CI: 0.80-0.91), cardiovascular mortality (HR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.76-0.93) and cancer mortality (HR: 0.89; 95% CI: 0.86-0.93). Conclusions: Consumption of OO particularly reduces cardiovascular mortality (16%), followed by all-cause mortality (15%) and cancer mortality (11%) in the adult population. However, further studies are needed to clarify the underlying mechanisms."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30006369/

                      "Fifty-four trials were included in the NMA. Safflower oil had the highest SUCRA value for LDL-C (82%) and TC (90%), followed by rapeseed oil (76% for LDL-C, 85% for TC); whereas, palm oil (74%) had the highest SUCRA value for TG, and coconut oil (88%) for HDL-C. Safflower, sunflower, rapeseed, flaxseed, corn, olive, soybean, palm, and coconut oil as well beef fat were more effective in reducing LDL-C (-0.42 to -0.23 mmol/l) as compared with butter. Despite limitations in these data, our NMA findings are in line with existing evidence on the metabolic effects of fat and support current recommendations to replace high saturated-fat food with unsaturated oils."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27434027/

                      "This meta-analysis of randomised controlled feeding trials provides evidence that dietary macronutrients have diverse effects on glucose-insulin homeostasis. In comparison to carbohydrate, SFA, or MUFA, most consistent favourable effects were seen with PUFA, which was linked to improved glycaemia, insulin resistance, and insulin secretion capacity."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35866510/

                      "The results of this review suggest that CO consumptionhas beneficial effects on LDL-c, TC, and LDL-c/HDL-c ratio compared to OO. Therefore, its replacement with OO can have cardioprotective impacts."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37968628/

                      "Our findings indicate that a shift from animal-based (e.g., red and processed meat, eggs, dairy, poultry, butter) to plant-based (e.g., nuts, legumes, whole grains, olive oil) foods is beneficially associated with cardiometabolic health and all-cause mortality."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36343558/

                      "Prospective studies supported a beneficial association of olive oil consumption with CVD, T2D and all-cause mortality, but they did not show any association with cancer risk."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32428300/

                      "The findings of this updated review suggest that reducing saturated fat intake for at least two years causes a potentially important reduction in combined cardiovascular events. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat or carbohydrate appear to be useful strategies, while effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat are unclear. The reduction in combined cardiovascular events resulting from reducing saturated fat did not alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk, but greater reduction in saturated fat caused greater reductions in cardiovascular events."

                      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25995283/

                      "Palm oil consumption results in higher LDL cholesterol than do vegetable oils low in saturated fat and higher HDL cholesterol than do trans fat-containing oils in humans. The effects of palm oil on blood lipids are as expected on the basis of its high saturated fat content, which supports the reduction in palm oil use by replacement with vegetable oils low in saturated and trans fat."

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                      Bro, nobody cares that much in this thread. You can be right and still be the jerk

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                      • B [email protected]

                        British breakfast is okay. But there’s a reason non of the top 10 restaurants in Great Britain is British.

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                        No-one in the UK goes to a restaurant for breakfast

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                          British breakfast is okay. But there’s a reason non of the top 10 restaurants in Great Britain is British.

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                          Because you don't go to a fancy restaurant to eat breakfast?

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                            No-one in the UK goes to a restaurant for breakfast

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                            I would occasionally go here after a particularly heavy night.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              Don't pour hot grease in a glass jar or it'll shatter and spill hot grease all over your counter and then when you grab a flimsy piece of plastic from the recycling and try to push it on to stop the spill and the plastic collapses and hot grease goes all over your forearm and gives you 2nd degree burns and your floor is covered in broken glass you will regret it.

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                              Get frozen orange juice and save the cardboard tube to hold the grease while it congeals.

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                                I wish they carried it in the markets here. I just looked it up, looks like it's just Steric Acid. You can buy a whole pound for $15.... gonna five that a try.

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                                am keen to know your results! please post 🙂

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                                  am keen to know your results! please post 🙂

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                                  It's in my cart. waiting to get a few more things before I push send.

                                  I'm hopeful from this:
                                  https://www.consumerreports.org/environment-sustainability/is-fryaway-oil-solidifier-best-way-to-dispose-of-cooking-oil-a1273485273/

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    As a home owner, $360 to get my kitchen drain cleaned. No more grease down the drain.

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                                    As a renter, that's the way it goes

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                                    • bfg9k@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                      I don't give a fuck, it's not my house and as soon as they jack up the rent we're out of here

                                      I might care if I ever own a home, but I really don't think it will ever happen

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                                      It fucks up the whole neighborhood dummy

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                                      • marighost@piefed.socialM [email protected]

                                        the drain can have little a grease, as a treat

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                                        Only poor it down the drain if you rent! Never when you own!

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                                        • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                          So around Friday of last week, my ground level apartment started to have a weird, foul, smell. It got worse and worse, until Monday morning, when my toilet stopped flushing and the drains took forever to clear.

                                          By then the smell was horrid, like a mixture of skunk, piss, and decay. Thankfully for me, my toilet suddenly started working for a couple of hours Monday night, but then stopped working by Tuesday morning. Around 3pm on Tuesday, they finished repairing the sewage pipe, but the smell lingers on.

                                          This also happened maybe 6-8 months ago, and it took 7-10 days for the smell to finally dissipate. I expect it will take that long this time as well.

                                          Judging by the notice left on all of our doors, that threatened to charge the person or persons responsible for flushing “flushable” wipes and cigarette butts (???) as well as dumping oil down the drain, our sewage pipe must have been completely blocked up. Without inspecting each unit, I doubt they will be able to assign blame, so whoever did it will likely get away with it.

                                          I have nothing to worry about, as I never pour oil down the drain, I don’t smoke cigarettes, and I only ever use toilet paper in the bathroom. Whoever invented “flushable” wipes deserve a punch in the fucking face. Now my apartment smells absolutely terrible, and likely will continue to do so for a week or so.

                                          For the love of god, do not dump oil down the drain! It’s so easy to pour it into a jar, then use a paper towel to wipe the rest of the oil out of the pot/pan. It makes actually cleaning the cookware that much easier as well.

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                                          Counterpoint: if you rent, put everything down the drain you can. Stop taking your garbage out, just blend it and down the drain it goes. Everything goes down the drain. It's like a magic hole that erases all of your sins!!

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