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  • L [email protected]

    But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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    I'd also point towards alternative reading apps and hardware and drop everything related to Amazon.

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      Don’t use kindle? They aren’t the only ebook provider

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      it blows my mind that people buy ebooks when Libby is free.

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        it blows my mind that people buy ebooks when Libby is free.

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        Seriously. Anna archives, libby. There are so many open source projects out there for the ereader community

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        • yogurtwrong@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

          Is there a way to donate to the authors? Because I think pirating and then donating the money (directly) to the author is much more ethical than putting a megacorp or a publisher in between

          Even better if you send it with something like Monero which doesn't even put the bank between you and the author

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          Imagine: pirating ebooks but donating money to the author at the same time. Win win.

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          • liquidthex@reddthat.comL [email protected]

            There's a problem with this "give them what they want and they won't pirate" when it comes to Spotify, yt music, etc:
            They can change the terms at any moment.
            AKA enshittification.

            If you downloaded it or bought a CD? Ain't no enshittification.

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            You’re absolutely right in that it’s a risk.

            But you can always buy a CD or digital album and rip the DRM off it. Or pirate it. Assuming you care enough to do that anyways.

            Me, I’m not really a music fan. Only reason I have YT Music is because it’s included with YT Premium. So it’s not going to bother me much if certain songs or albums disappear. I’ll just listen to other stuff. Music is merely background noise to me.

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              The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
              They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

              All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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              Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism.

              That is putting it very mildly.

              "There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it’s a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere. Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

              He said that in *checks notes* 1971.

              Worse, it was in response to criticism to an article he wrote that was justifiably criticizing Israel at a time when it wasn't so popular to do so. And when he was accused of the old "you're anti-Israel, so you're anti-semitic" nonsense, he decided to go, "hell yeah I am!"

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                The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
                They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

                All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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                Changing words seems wrong with it sanitizing and makes future audiences unaware of how bigoted and flawed writers of a time period might be. It underplays cruel parts of society leading to a flawed rosy colored outlook. Now future readers won't know how far from PC writers like Dahl were.

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                • A [email protected]

                  Amazon’s ebook store front (as well as the internet in general) is flooded with AI slop. The internet is a place where the signal to noise ratio is dropping rapidly.

                  Physical media is necessary. Especially books. Especially the kinds of books regimes might want to ban. When it’s time to rebuild, we’ll need firm ground to stand on, and physical books work as long as you can hold them.

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                  Or DRMless digital. But yeah, they need to coexist with paper ones.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    I meant for buying ebooks w/o DRM.

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                    There's not a lot of great options for buying eBooks outside of amazon imo. There are some options out there but so many people self-publish exclusively on amazon you very well could be better buying off physical copies (which are somehow often cheaper) and legally backing up your books by finding downloads.

                    Here is a link for some that you can but online though.

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                    • yogurtwrong@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

                      Is there a way to donate to the authors? Because I think pirating and then donating the money (directly) to the author is much more ethical than putting a megacorp or a publisher in between

                      Even better if you send it with something like Monero which doesn't even put the bank between you and the author

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                      You mean the authors would actually earn money instead of the "publisher"? How unfair! /s

                      When mist books were made of paper, the publishers job was quite the deal including printing, delivering, stocks, pulp the rests etc. So they took the lions share of the price together with the bookstore and the author got maybe 10-15% from the final price.

                      Today it's just theft.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Uh, title is a bit clickbaity, editorialized. Amazon isn't changing books yet, they are planning to make it possible for publishers to do so, I think, and also recoking ownership. And the video is not great either.

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                        Amazon hasn't changed the content of books yet but publishers already have changed them and that is part of the issue.

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                          The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
                          They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

                          All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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                          I'm not saying you should call anyone a removed but you americans sure have some strange problems with words if you can't even put it in writing.

                          Should we censor words like Nazi, Hitler, Accident, Hate, Rape, and so on? Who decides the approved words? How do you even transcribe events correctly?

                          It's like peopke think that there is nothing bad done if we just don't talk about it.

                          Smh

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                          • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

                            Or DRMless digital. But yeah, they need to coexist with paper ones.

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                            DRMless digital is great - I have a calibre library of thousands - but still more vulnerable.

                            Canticle of Lebowitz is a great post apocalyptic novel. After the nukes, Catholic monasteries preserve the ancient tradition of copying down manuscripts. Text doesn’t require any form of infrastructure.

                            There are also many texts/other media that are not available in any digital format. Obscure or older. For as much of an Information Age we are in, a lot of knowledge is being lost through neglect.

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                            • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                              So, Google before the IPO.

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                              Perfect is the enemy of good.

                              Would you rather people switch to non google services or think that since they are all equally evil they might as well keep using the same service.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                They also treat artists like shit. I switched over to Tidal simply to get access to Joanna Newsom's music, as she won't tolerate Spotify's terms. Tidal isn't much better, but it is slightly.

                                I was looking forward to blockchain cutting out the middle man in paying artists. Too bad it has so far not happened that way.

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                                Block chain was ruined by the early adopters.

                                I really like Tidals algorithm for new music. I struggle to find new music I like so find it immensely helpful and it is much better than spotifys.

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                                  DRMless digital is great - I have a calibre library of thousands - but still more vulnerable.

                                  Canticle of Lebowitz is a great post apocalyptic novel. After the nukes, Catholic monasteries preserve the ancient tradition of copying down manuscripts. Text doesn’t require any form of infrastructure.

                                  There are also many texts/other media that are not available in any digital format. Obscure or older. For as much of an Information Age we are in, a lot of knowledge is being lost through neglect.

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                                  The overwhelming majority of my library is actually not digital-native - rather, pdf or djvu scans. I should really contribute to Libgen by scanning some of my library.

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                                  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksV [email protected]

                                    Well that and the fact that some of us define better in such ways that others think may be worse. For example there was a trend some years back where Instagram models were damaging Joshua trees, I am of the complete and unshakable opinion that their blood shouldve water a new Joshua tree and their corpse reduced to mulch for said tree. I aint got nothing against whoring oneself out after all money is money but hurting the Joshua trees is a worthy of death.

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                                    Instagram isn't for sex is it?

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                                      Not exactly aphantasia, though some kinds of imagination are close to that for me. Rather that something remote is very hard to imagine, while triggers, like sounds and smells and physical feelings and harmonic progressions, make something very easy to imagine.

                                      So if I know that I have to do something or else my head rolls off, the deadline being in 3 hours, I won't be as concentrated as the typical person.

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                                      That's interesting, I'd never heard of that before. I know that people who are aphantasic often still dream with vivid mental images, so, it like they aren't able to access them consciously and maybe the triggers help you in a similar way.

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                                        The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
                                        They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

                                        All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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                                        Wait, if you have the old edition on your kindle, do they reach into your kindle and change what is there? Or do they just change the version in the store to the new edition, preferably with a new ISBN, if Kindles have ISBN's?

                                        I remember about the Roald Dahl thing and it seemed pretty clear which edition people would be getting. And some of this stuff (according to another internet poster I mean) may have been intended to keep the books in copyright longer rather than to merely mess with the content. Blyton died in 1968 so her stuff could enter the public domain in the next few decades otherwise. That's nefarious too.

                                        I remember for sure that Huckleberry Finn had the N word. Maybe little kids shouldn't be reading it, I'm cool with that, though I read it as a kid myself. But grown-ups who do read it can deal with an unexpurgated version.

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                                          Instagram isn't for sex is it?

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                                          Not directly, but plenty of models are basically trying to get work from rich coomers and what not. On the more extreme levels it gets pretty fucking horrific, if ya want to know how bad it can get look up Instagram models who whore travel to the UAE or Dubai. Mind you you'll probably want to turn Arabia into glass.

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