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  • dohpaz42@lemmy.worldD [email protected]
    1. Not being able to create a file
    2. Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
    3. Spring-loaded folders are hit or miss
    4. No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
    5. No good intuitive way to reset any folder defaults
    6. .DS_Store and ._DS_Store (nuff said)
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    #33
    1. Download iTerm2
    2. See 1
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    • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

      And I guess this isn’t the default for backwards compatibility with 1978’s tech?

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      A lot of apps still use legacy Windows APIs that don't understand very long paths. Those APIs have been deprecated for maybe 15 years or more, but developers are lazy. Microsoft can't add support for long paths to the old APIs because they use a fixed buffer size (which means that only a certain amount of memory space is available for the path, and increasing it would break the apps that rely on that). They can't totally remove the old APIs because every app that uses them would break.

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        I find myself having too many nested folders, and I’m just a normie. I wonder how deep they go for you tech people.

        At some points, Windows won’t let me change the file name because it was too long and I’m assuming the file path to it plus the ridiculously long name (“person last name, first name - type of document (purpose) yyyymmdd”) just breaks Windows.

        Sometimes I have to copy those files to my desktop just to rename the new file, so that I can upload the file to an online system that only lets me upload files with names under 42 characters long. It’s wild.

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        This was one of the reasons I quit trying to develop on Windows way back when. I had a very well organized system of subfolders for all my code, and it was literally running into some kind of path length limit trying to import deeply nested dependencies in certain projects. This was WELL into the era of 64-bit computing, absolutely no excuse other than Microsoft taking shortcuts.

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          You can enable long names in Windows, essentially removing that restriction and giving you the power of all the sub folders up to something like 26'000 characters.

          1. Open the Registry Editor.
          2. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FileSystem
          3. Find the LongPathsEnabled DWORD value, double-click it, and set its value to 1
          4. Restart your computer
          5. Be free and happy
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          Well son of a bitch, there was a workaround

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            Data shouldn't be organized hirarchically.

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            • i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.ukI [email protected]

              Just missing a random pile of files on the desktop.

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              My actual desk and office - messy. My desktop - folder, folder, 4 shortcuts. My phone -groups of apps ordered by function - Pebble, Office, Entertainment, etc. My garage - absolute hoarder nightmare from hell cause I just can't seem to get to it. Why I can be ordered in one area and not in another is beyond me.

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              • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                A lot of apps still use legacy Windows APIs that don't understand very long paths. Those APIs have been deprecated for maybe 15 years or more, but developers are lazy. Microsoft can't add support for long paths to the old APIs because they use a fixed buffer size (which means that only a certain amount of memory space is available for the path, and increasing it would break the apps that rely on that). They can't totally remove the old APIs because every app that uses them would break.

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                They can’t totally remove the old APIs because every app that uses them would break.

                For every other company I would buy that argument. But for one that forces customers to throw away millions of computers which can’t run Win 11… no.

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                  Downloads is usually my largest folder. Funny thing is that it is literally all just Linux isos because I'm trying some things with servers

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                  "Trying some things"

                  Then you end up liking what you slapped together with jank and a prayer to the temporary work-around and now there's a new prod server!

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                    Downloads is usually my largest folder. Funny thing is that it is literally all just Linux isos because I'm trying some things with servers

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                    "Linux ISOs"

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                    • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                      What is a spring-loaded folder?

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                      https://techpp.com/2021/08/17/mac-spring-loaded-folders-guide/

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                        https://techpp.com/2021/08/17/mac-spring-loaded-folders-guide/

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                        This doesn't sound any easier than using Ctrl+X to cut files and Ctrl+V to paste them wherever you want to?

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                          Realistically, the skip should be named "Desktop"

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                          • dohpaz42@lemmy.worldD [email protected]
                            1. Not being able to create a file
                            2. Folders aren’t by default listed at the top
                            3. Spring-loaded folders are hit or miss
                            4. No good intuitive way to set defaults for ALL folders at once
                            5. No good intuitive way to reset any folder defaults
                            6. .DS_Store and ._DS_Store (nuff said)
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                            I HATE that windows will sort folders at the top instead of alphabetically with everything else. I guess it comes from using a Mac for so long.

                            I agree about .DS_Store in any mixed os environment though.

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                              Anyone who uses YYMMDD instead of ISO 8601 needs to be fed feet first into a wood chipper.

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                                Do you even git?

                                Surely experiment 1…n should be branches.

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                                With git LFS there's no excuse.

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                                  This doesn't sound any easier than using Ctrl+X to cut files and Ctrl+V to paste them wherever you want to?

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                                  Depends on how you use your computer.
                                  Plenty of people would tell you that using a GUI file manager and cutting/moving files is inefficient on any platform as opposed to just using a terminal.

                                  There are times where it’s nice to drag a file or group of files and have Finder show me the content of the destination folder before I decide to drop the files. But sure I could do that with 3 mouse clicks and 4 keyboard taps.

                                  I think that terminal only or primarily terminal is valuable, a combination of mouse and keyboard with shortcuts is valuable, and also the ability to just use your mouse (especially helpful for accessibility) is also valuable, and they all should be supported.

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                                    Why would you use the Finder when macOS has a perfectly fine shell?

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                                    zsh? I mean, I use that too… but what does that have to do with anything?

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                                      I HATE that windows will sort folders at the top instead of alphabetically with everything else. I guess it comes from using a Mac for so long.

                                      I agree about .DS_Store in any mixed os environment though.

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                                      Yeah, I don’t know why having folders at the top would make anything easier.

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                                        zsh? I mean, I use that too… but what does that have to do with anything?

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                                        You can do all file management operations from the command line. No need to use the Finder.

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                                          Anyone who uses YYMMDD instead of ISO 8601 needs to be fed feet first into a wood chipper.

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                                          ISO 8601 is YYYYMMDD (or YYYY-MM-DD in extended format)

                                          Are you really going to wood chipper someone for leaving off the leading 20? I think we can safely infer the century and millennium with a high confidence, why not trade them for two extra name characters?

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