German security officials believe the Kremlin is laying the groundwork for a potential large-scale conventional war with NATO by the end of the decade
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/59867996
German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.
Germany has to pump out these messages because they live so far from the critical border. It's easy to not understand the risk.
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Taking how successful Russia was on the battlefield of Ukraine, I'm going to go ahead and say "try us"
I know that Europe is a bit behind on military spending but that is rapidly changing and in the meantime Russia lost nearly a million soldiers on the frontline. That alone is enough to cripple the nation for the next two decades.
It's hard to see how Russia is going to do anything of that. The only "strength" it currently has is misinformation which works well for the US right now but that will have its limits soon enough
Nuclear exchange. Yeah it's possible they nukes were maintained about as well as their tanks. It's also possible that we're entirely fucked.
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/59867996
German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.
Elsewhere on Lemmy today;
Russia has depleted its tank stocks: the industry is not covering combat losses
Both of these cannot be true.
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Elsewhere on Lemmy today;
Russia has depleted its tank stocks: the industry is not covering combat losses
Both of these cannot be true.
Well they can both be true, It just depends on Putin's mental state.
There was a rumor going around that he is dying and he is basically just doing this to try and make a name for himself, he will rebuild the USSR and it will stand for a thousand years as him as its founding father, and all that rubbish. Of course it's impossible for that to happen, but if he's dying anyway why not try?
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Germany has to pump out these messages because they live so far from the critical border. It's easy to not understand the risk.
Germany is still so uncertain of the risk that they still use Russian gas even 4 years after saying they were going to stop.
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Nuclear exchange. Yeah it's possible they nukes were maintained about as well as their tanks. It's also possible that we're entirely fucked.
It's not just whether or not the missiles were maintained, they probably weren't, but due to the amount of corruption it's also possible they are lacking critical components that Russia thinks they still have.
Every bad guy in every movie gets his nuclear material from some corrupt Russian military official. Maybe it's true.
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Correct, they would have to use the infrastructure attacks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Baltic_Sea_submarine_cable_disruptions
They can’t use article 5 preemptively
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A planned attack is still an attack. Waiting is stupid we should hit them with everything now if there's proof.
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Maybe this is a suicidal plan, Putin is going to die and wants to take the world with him. He is too megalomaniacal and sadistic to do that.
Just based on Trump's previous administration I'm confident that if he actually tried to do that it would cause serious arguments between the military and the executive branch. The military already decided to pretty much ignore him when he was going on in his last term about nuclear weapons, fortunately it never came up.
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It's not just whether or not the missiles were maintained, they probably weren't, but due to the amount of corruption it's also possible they are lacking critical components that Russia thinks they still have.
Every bad guy in every movie gets his nuclear material from some corrupt Russian military official. Maybe it's true.
Yeah? And if you're wrong we're fucked. To be clear it's not that you or I could do anything about it. We're just either fucked or going to have the world's biggest laugh at the Russians.
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But is there a downside for the guy running our country?
There was no downside for Gaddafi.
Until there was.
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You don't 'need' Russia, but it's mutually beneficial to have them on your side.
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The only thing worse than having Russia as an enemy is having them as an ally.
They're a catastrophe in nation form, the best thing we can do is push them as close to China as possible and watch them shoot themselves in the dick.
That's why Trump is such a nightmare, he's showing them our dicks.
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What was preemptive about 9/11? The US was attacked, therefore they invoked Article 5.
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Starting wars, especially world wars, is bad. I don't know what else to tell you.
Other than individual countries can take action if they decide to.
Perhaps you could drum up popular support amongst your citizenry and convince them to start a war.
Certainly been done before, you'd be in good company.
The thing you aren't grasping is when they do attack a Nato country the rules are off the table they are going to be using tactical nukes definetely or possibly worse
In my opinion it's suicide to wait for a nuclear country to make the first move especially when there's a defense pact of 30+ smaller countries. They are going to use nukes the best we can hope for is their tactical ones on the battlefield.
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Well they can both be true, It just depends on Putin's mental state.
There was a rumor going around that he is dying and he is basically just doing this to try and make a name for himself, he will rebuild the USSR and it will stand for a thousand years as him as its founding father, and all that rubbish. Of course it's impossible for that to happen, but if he's dying anyway why not try?
He has definitely made a name for himself. Can we just tell him it's positive and let him die so that the rest of the world can move on?
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/59867996
German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.
With what? I read yesterday they were not able to keep up with the losses from just fighting the ukraine.
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The use of “after” in your statement should be a clue that you’re wrong
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They burned through their Soviet stockpiles of artillery and tanks in 3 years fighting Ukraine, what makes anyone think they could fight NATO?
Well China is ready to make bank
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With what? I read yesterday they were not able to keep up with the losses from just fighting the ukraine.
American tanks
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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/59867996
German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung, WDR, and NDR also cite the report, noting that Russian President Vladimir Putin appears intent on testing NATO’s Article 5 guarantees. The alliance’s mutual defence clause obliges member states to come to one another’s aid if attacked. The assessment suggests Putin may seek to challenge how seriously that commitment would be honoured.
Me too, I believe that. Anyone with half a brain believes that.
