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France’s National Assembly votes in favour of legalising assisted dying

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  • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    France’s parliament has voted in favour of a bill to legalise assisted dying, paving the way for euthanasia and assisted dying under what campaigners say would still be some of the strictest conditions in Europe.

    After a sometimes emotional session, deputies passed the first reading of the bill by a vote of 305 to 199. They also unanimously backed a less contentious law establishing a right to palliative care in specialist end-of-life institutions.

    Both votes are the start of a long parliamentary process that will require the bills to move on to the Senate – the upper house – and then back to the lower house – the National Assembly – for a second reading, meaning they are unlikely to become law before next year.

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    Apart from moronic religious nonsense I can't understand why anyone would oppose compassionate assisted-suicide.

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      Apart from moronic religious nonsense I can't understand why anyone would oppose compassionate assisted-suicide.

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      Well, you could just be an asshole who wants other people to suffer, though that probably also describes many of the people claiming religious reasons to oppose it.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        France’s parliament has voted in favour of a bill to legalise assisted dying, paving the way for euthanasia and assisted dying under what campaigners say would still be some of the strictest conditions in Europe.

        After a sometimes emotional session, deputies passed the first reading of the bill by a vote of 305 to 199. They also unanimously backed a less contentious law establishing a right to palliative care in specialist end-of-life institutions.

        Both votes are the start of a long parliamentary process that will require the bills to move on to the Senate – the upper house – and then back to the lower house – the National Assembly – for a second reading, meaning they are unlikely to become law before next year.

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        This sort of thing is good. I want to someday die on my terms, rather than living an drawn out and miserable existence.

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          Apart from moronic religious nonsense I can't understand why anyone would oppose compassionate assisted-suicide.

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          Canada's assisted suicide program has some serious problems. They're pushing people with disabilities to suicide rather than provide enough money and community support for them to have a decent quality of life. A paralympic athlete was offered it and she was justifiably offended.

          In the abstract, I'm in favor of it. There needs to be significant thought put into how it's implemented though, and it can't be done in lieu of a reasonable quality of life for disabled people like Canada did.

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          • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            France’s parliament has voted in favour of a bill to legalise assisted dying, paving the way for euthanasia and assisted dying under what campaigners say would still be some of the strictest conditions in Europe.

            After a sometimes emotional session, deputies passed the first reading of the bill by a vote of 305 to 199. They also unanimously backed a less contentious law establishing a right to palliative care in specialist end-of-life institutions.

            Both votes are the start of a long parliamentary process that will require the bills to move on to the Senate – the upper house – and then back to the lower house – the National Assembly – for a second reading, meaning they are unlikely to become law before next year.

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            So that's another thing another nation does better than the US. Anyway, back to mediocrity...

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              Apart from moronic religious nonsense I can't understand why anyone would oppose compassionate assisted-suicide.

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              If you see letting people die as a way to save money it can become a problem quite fast. Think about elderly people in a care facility, wouldn't it be nice if they simply decided to die as soon as the care for them becomes too expensive?

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                If you see letting people die as a way to save money it can become a problem quite fast. Think about elderly people in a care facility, wouldn't it be nice if they simply decided to die as soon as the care for them becomes too expensive?

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                You can support their decision making by evicting them once they are out of money. There is no need for social security money once people have other options.

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                  This sort of thing is good. I want to someday die on my terms, rather than living an drawn out and miserable existence.

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                  Me neither - there are conditions that are uncurable and really painful. If you have some incurable cancer, your dead will not be nice and all your suffering will be totally senseless. You will die, nobody can help you, there won't be any miracle cure and your suffering could end right now. I want that for me.

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                    Apart from moronic religious nonsense I can't understand why anyone would oppose compassionate assisted-suicide.

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                    There is a ton of pressure, both social and financial on disabled/elderly people that could push them to be forced to take that option. Given that the current government is letting public healthcare rot this is not a good look.

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                      There is a ton of pressure, both social and financial on disabled/elderly people that could push them to be forced to take that option. Given that the current government is letting public healthcare rot this is not a good look.

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                      That is not something that happens very often, but since death is not reversible (yet) I say we need to make sure people applying for euthanasia actually want to die. But I don't how this could become a valid reason to skip on giving anyone the possibility to choose whe to die.

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                        You can support their decision making by evicting them once they are out of money. There is no need for social security money once people have other options.

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                        Or just by making pain meds not covered by insurance, world can be made evil so easily

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                        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                          France’s parliament has voted in favour of a bill to legalise assisted dying, paving the way for euthanasia and assisted dying under what campaigners say would still be some of the strictest conditions in Europe.

                          After a sometimes emotional session, deputies passed the first reading of the bill by a vote of 305 to 199. They also unanimously backed a less contentious law establishing a right to palliative care in specialist end-of-life institutions.

                          Both votes are the start of a long parliamentary process that will require the bills to move on to the Senate – the upper house – and then back to the lower house – the National Assembly – for a second reading, meaning they are unlikely to become law before next year.

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                          Finally.

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                            So that's another thing another nation does better than the US. Anyway, back to mediocrity...

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                            In the Netherlands assisted suicide is performed by medical doctors and paid for by the public health insurance that every resident (not just citizen) enjoys. It must look like communism to the USA.

                            In Switzerland it isn't paid for by the state, but is legal as well.

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