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What was the articulation point of the fall of the Roman empire, in which it was finally publicly and commonly recognized as fallen

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    Okay buddy Russian

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    It's the facts. You don't have to pay any attention to them if you don't want, I guess.

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      It's the facts. You don't have to pay any attention to them if you don't want, I guess.

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      Got em right from RT so they and all conclusions derived from them must be true amirite

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        It's pretty much memetic that there is no agreed-on date.

        Like, you could go 1456 and not be wrong, and in multiple ways Russia inherited a lot of Byzantium. At the other end, Rome was in decline loong before it was sacked, like centuries, and actually had had brushes with instability all along in it's Empire period, like the year of four emperors in 69.

        Edit: One of the mentioned memes.

        when you fall down the stairs, do you timestamp the moment you tripped, the moment you landed at the bottom, or every moment you hit each and every step on the way down?

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        The pope holds a title associated with the roman emperor and controlled Rome until the unification of Italy.

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          The pope holds a title associated with the roman emperor and controlled Rome until the unification of Italy.

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          Yeah, but there was a 3 century break before the the local Germanic rulers decided to give it to the pope as a temporal domain.

          The Church in general is a solid example of a way Rome lived on very directly and relevantly after Roman period ended, it's a good point. It's also why we still have so much of their literature, while that of Parthia is lost. And I should mention that the Byzantine emperor Justinian got close to bringing the western half of the empire back.

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