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Are IDEs really like this ?

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    I just use Kate

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    Kate is great for being a compiled C++ program, making it nice and lightweight. Plus lots of syntax highlighting. Not quite the same as IDEs with auto completion, but pretty good for plain text editing.

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      This is why everyone should go back to ed

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      • O [email protected]

        LOL. Let me guess "just use Emacs/vim"?

        No thank you bruv. Been there, done that. Terrible experience.

        https://github.com/emacs-tw/awesome-emacs

        https://www.spacemacs.org/

        https://vimawesome.com/

        https://github.com/lunarvim/lunarvim

        All of these emulated only a fraction of the power of IDEs, even after weeks of trying to get them configured properly.

        Inb4 "you're doing it wrong". Nah mate, IDEs work out of the box and don't require opening a text file to change settings while going through reams of documentation.

        I right click in a file and it shows me the most important contextual commands. No need to find the " leader key", scroll through all the 1 billion commands, I don't have to "download a LSP and DAP" then "configure treesitter" or whatever the fuck kind of apes are in the editor.

        Those editors have steep learning curves and get you productive eventually. IDEs get you there much more quickly. Yeah yeah, they hide complexity and "people don't know what's actually going on anymore" but sometimes I just want to get going instead of fighting my editor first. Feel me?

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        All those wondrous IDEs were nowhere to be found 20 years ago, especially if you didn't run windows. While Emacs did it all and more.

        So yes, you had to read the documentation. That's what we did back then. We still do it when someone can be arsed to write one.

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          Kate is great for being a compiled C++ program, making it nice and lightweight. Plus lots of syntax highlighting. Not quite the same as IDEs with auto completion, but pretty good for plain text editing.

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          It can give autocompletion based on the current file, which is good for writing self contained classes. You can also enable an LSP to get language autocompletion šŸ˜„

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            Yeah, IntelliJ has become worse over time. Or atleast Android Studio has. IntelliJ used to be amazing.

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            IntelliJ now requires like 8GiB of RAM to even open.

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            • anunusualrelic@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              All those wondrous IDEs were nowhere to be found 20 years ago, especially if you didn't run windows. While Emacs did it all and more.

              So yes, you had to read the documentation. That's what we did back then. We still do it when someone can be arsed to write one.

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              We're not 20 years in the past, old man.

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                We're not 20 years in the past, old man.

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                I know, back then people knew what files and directories were. Good times.

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                  I know, back then people knew what files and directories were. Good times.

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                  That knowledge is gone. Everything is a web app running JavaScript in a browser. We don't need to be encumbered by pesky things like pages and folders.
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                    I just code in Notepad++. I make an error, I fix it. It doesn't work, I just dump variables to see what I did wrong and where.

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                    • vitabytesdev@feddit.nlV [email protected]

                      IntelliJ now requires like 8GiB of RAM to even open.

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                      Isn't the JVM limited to 2 GB or something like that?

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