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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

    fair

    i guess most western maps are arranged in such a way that the middle east is in the center and the atlantic is on the map completely because

    1. the atlantic has probably been more important historically than the pacific, as europeans sailed over the atlantic, not the pacific.

    2. the pacific ocean is a bigger body of water, so having it on the "back" side of the globe makes sense because this way, you have a more uninteresting back-side of the globe and a more interesting front-side.

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    No, they are not. I really suggest you look at an European map. Algeria/Mali are in the center of the map, depending on how much Antarctica is included.

    Maps are normally centered roughly around the region you buy them in. European maps are centered on the 0 meridian, because it fits so nicely while keeping the European countries around the center. The 0 meridian was just defined by the Brits as going through Greenwich.

    The bottom is cut of more, because Antarctica is less interesting than Canada, Greenland and Siberia.

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      we like to keep to ourselves and not meddle in the affairs of others

      Tell that to Yugoslavia, Libya or Iraq

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      How about the entirety of the EU? That's the joke.

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        Clearly, this is all Austria's fault. To punish Austria, Germany needs to invade and annex it....

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        #67

        I know you're being sarcastic. Although I tried to say that WW2 is "our" fault (Germany caused it). But as I read my last sentence again, I do see it's weirdly written.

        Anyway, I am just frustrated that we (Germans) are apologizing forever, paying other countries huge amounts of money, etc. Yes, it was very very bad what happened during that time, but we weren't the only ones doing bad shit! The "great and free" land of the fucking USA is (TO THIS DAY) the ONLY state, that has ever dropped a nuclear weapon on another country. Or have they apologized to Vietnam? To the hundreds (if not thousands) of victims to the crimes of the CIA? Have they apologized for Project MKUltra? Or the Tuskegee Syphilis Study? I could go on, but it's already a pretty good list... Now, did the US do anything to apologize, pay compensation or anything? NO! They tried to hide it. Just like communists in China or Russia or the former USSR. And whose the biggest enemy of the US? THE FUCKING COMMUNISTS! (I am not a communist by the way, I just wanted to point out the irony.) Furthermore: China, Russia, USSR, etc. have been spying their people. Guess who is spying (not only US Citizens): the motherfucking NSA! Like with the Intel ME ( Great Video from Mental Outlaw btw ). Or EternalBlue, which the NSA exploited for years and not telling Microsoft to fix it...

        Sorry, this hatred has been building up in me the last several months. But I am not hating the citizens, they (systematically) don't receive education, it's not their fault.

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        • F [email protected]

          geographic center

          Just shows where you buy your maps.

          Map with N&S America centered

          Map with East Asia centered

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          #68

          New Guinea is in the center.

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            Germany happily joined the bombing of Libya and Yugoslavia, and the invasion of Iraq. Just because now it's brown people dying, it doesn't make it better.

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            Don't quite remember Germany being in Iraq or Lybia lately. Also, while being a bit rusty on my history, wasn't the military involvement in Yugoslavia to stop the genocide on the local Muslim, or, as you call them, brown, population?

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              you think WW3 is starting because of Israel? Can I also get under the rock your been living under, must be nice there.

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              They only threatening to nuke the planet. No biggie! \s

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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              • F [email protected]

                I dont see the potential for global conflict.

                Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It's a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.

                Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we're all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

                (That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)

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                religious crazies to have nukes.

                So what are you doing to disarm the zio cult?

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

                It’s a regional conflict,

                Try reading a book sometime jfc.

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                • F [email protected]

                  cue Oprah

                  YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, EVERYONE GETS THE BOMB!


                  Them not behaving more recklessly than Israel is unfortunately not a high bar; which given their past actions I'm not sure they'd pass. I'd like to err on the side of caution here.

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                  #72

                  What "past actions"? Being constantly attacked and threatened by empire and a genocidal cult?

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                    #73

                    Apparently germany is delusional and genocidal as usual.

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                      Where should the Israel Jews go now though?

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                      #74

                      Who are you imaging here? The number of palestinian jews is relatively tiny. They're mostly been driven out of israel by the european white supremacists.

                      https://csalateral.org/forum/cultural-constructions-race-racism-middle-east-north-africa-southwest-asia-mena-swana/cooption-erasure-mizrahi-culture-israel-crasnow/

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                      • F [email protected]

                        You want to force Jews into the diaspora again? Brilliant move, that worked so well for them the first time around. /s

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                        If zios can't handle freedom, democracy, equality, etc. in palestine, they're free as always to return to their actual homes in usa, europe, russia, asia, africa, etc... Unless ofc the zio regime locks them in.

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                          Does that mean the US doesn't have to fix it?

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                          Imagine believing that imperialism fixes anything.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Iranian citizens are not being targeted whereas Iran (and previously Hezbollah) bombed at least one Israeli town where there are no military.

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                            You might understand the situation better if you remove your head from your ass.

                            https://ilkha.com/english/world/over-220-civilians-killed-in-ongoing-israeli-aggression-on-iran-462483

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                              Germans?

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                              I think they call themselves almonders or something.

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                              • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                                Do people actually think the middle east conflict will start ww3?

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                                There's a genocide like in ww2, but it doesn't threaten capital so every state supports it.

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                                • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                                  I think your souces for whats actually happening is clouding your judgement. There is no world where isreal is forced out of the middle east. They've made the strategic moves to take those options off the table.

                                  Isreal is more than capable of defending themselves with us support. They have destroyed almost all major threats in rhe region with Iran being the last one.

                                  Arabs in the region will never forget this war. But Arabs also hated isreal before so I doubt much has changed on the perception front.

                                  Most likely isreal will go back to normalisation with governments in the region since all major terrorist factions are virtually eliminated. If they can get regime change in Iran there is a good chance things will stabilise. Maybe they will need to destroy the houthis as well.

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                                  They’ve made the strategic moves

                                  Aka threatening the planet with a nuclear holocaust.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

                                  all major terrorist factions are virtually eliminated

                                  No. The zio regime is still fully in control of large areas of palestine. Not to mention wider imperial terrorism.

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                                    What "past actions"? Being constantly attacked and threatened by empire and a genocidal cult?

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                                    for starters, If you'd like to immerse yourself into the system of Middle Eastern clients and proxies, you will have an especially fun and long day going through the rather noxious minions of Iran.

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      You want to force Jews into the diaspora again?

                                      So, the only alternative to diaspora is an apartheid ethnostate in occupied land?

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                                      of course not. the alternative should be a free and open society where Jews are but one of many groups.

                                      Israel is currently sliding away from this - sadly - but it still has the potential

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                                        "have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain."

                                        Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.

                                        Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

                                        But apparently we do need religious crazies who already have nukes, are in the middle of a massive genocide, are attacking and occupying multiple other countries, and have ambitions of conquering the whole middle east, to act as World Police?

                                        You're literally endorsing war crimes.

                                        Netanyahu a deplorable asshat

                                        By "deplorable asshat", you mean the fascist leader of a genocidal ethnostate currently launching multiple wars of aggression.

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                                        Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.

                                        ...or from someone describing one of the scores of conflicts since where "regional" has been a fitting description

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                                          Apparently germany is delusional and genocidal as usual.

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                                          Oh come on, tell me your country, then we can start the blaming game, in which we both can't change shit due to our politics!

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