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    99% of channels suck. Its only the select few educational channels that actually have content. Other than watching Youtube, I pirate a lot of TV shows and movies.

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    This may be a large part of my problem. I've kind of just noted that theres so many people spending so many hours watching youtube, that there must be an abundance of good content. Then again, a decent amount of people are probably content with having some slop on in the background, and a major user-base probably consists of kids watching people scream into the camera. With that in mind, it may not be that unlikely that even with millions of hours of content, there may only be a few thousand actually worth watching if you find it...

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      Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

      Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

      I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

      What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

      As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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      People need to learn to subscribe to channels they like and then actually use the subscription tab.

      Don't just let YT suggest videos to you. be active in your content consumption

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      • deuxchevaux@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        I can feel you. YouTube is my "tv" and I've been watching it for years. But lately the quality of the suggestions has gone completely out of whack, imo. I scroll through the suggestions and find nothing worth watching. Sometimes i try to improve it by hitting 'not interested' or 'don't suggest this channel', but it's not helping.

        Maybe Spez has bribed Google to show us rubbish, so we'd return to Reddit?

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        I've noticed a lot of AI slop being recommended all of a sudden too, not just AI voice stuff but lazy AI generated thumbnails and titles too. I've been clicking don't suggest channel every time it turns up but YouTube is still trying to push it.

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        • deuxchevaux@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

          I can feel you. YouTube is my "tv" and I've been watching it for years. But lately the quality of the suggestions has gone completely out of whack, imo. I scroll through the suggestions and find nothing worth watching. Sometimes i try to improve it by hitting 'not interested' or 'don't suggest this channel', but it's not helping.

          Maybe Spez has bribed Google to show us rubbish, so we'd return to Reddit?

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          It's actually kind of nice to hear this. You're the kind of person I was thinking of when I thought to myself that "there must be heaps of decent content out there, because a bunch of people use youtube as their tv", so if it's gone to crap for you as well, at least that indicates I'm not just going crazy from lying still for way too long.

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          • S [email protected]

            People need to learn to subscribe to channels they like and then actually use the subscription tab.

            Don't just let YT suggest videos to you. be active in your content consumption

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            That's what I've been doing though, and usually it's not a problem. The issue now is that I've been confined to my bed for long enough that I've watched all the new content from the channels I subscribe to, and have been hoping that the recommendations would help me find new channels I would be interested in, but alas...

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            • S [email protected]

              People need to learn to subscribe to channels they like and then actually use the subscription tab.

              Don't just let YT suggest videos to you. be active in your content consumption

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              People don't use the subscription tab? Why do they subscribe in the first place?

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              • einkorn@feddit.orgE [email protected]

                People don't use the subscription tab? Why do they subscribe in the first place?

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                that was my reaction as well.

                I did a non-scientific poll in my friendscircle and fedi followers, and aparently only about a quarter of the people even know that "subscriptions" is an actual tab.

                They just assume if they subscribe, that it will show up on the home page / main feed somehow.

                It absolutely explains the "youtube unsubbed me from you" comments you always see. They never were subscribed in the first place (always saw releases on the home page when YT felt like it). Or they subbed, but never use the sub tab

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                • T [email protected]

                  Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                  Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                  I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                  What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                  As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                  Youtube's algorithm is now Show the user videos like the last two they watched and NOTHING ELSE

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                  • T [email protected]

                    That's what I've been doing though, and usually it's not a problem. The issue now is that I've been confined to my bed for long enough that I've watched all the new content from the channels I subscribe to, and have been hoping that the recommendations would help me find new channels I would be interested in, but alas...

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                    Do you know the "new to you" feature?

                    It's agenuinely neat thing by YT, so of course it's completely hidden away.

                    In the browser you can find it at the top below the search bar, where you see all the genres:

                    You just need to scroll aaalllll the way to to right.

                    I don't use it often, but the feature is basically a recommendation feed on steroids. Videos in the same style that you already seem to like, but from creators that you haven't or rarely watched.

                    I found some real nice gems in there. As well as small creators that are geninely good and would later explode in popularity

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                    • S [email protected]

                      People need to learn to subscribe to channels they like and then actually use the subscription tab.

                      Don't just let YT suggest videos to you. be active in your content consumption

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                      That doesn't work anymore and I say this as a long time user. In the last 5 years their algorithm has gotten worse and worse. I have an extensive subscription list and the junk they push at me these days never matches any of the videos I currently watch. Deleting history and trying to rebuild it doesn't help. OP's feelings here is widely held with many users these days.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                        Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                        I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                        What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                        As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                        What’s with the “aggressively American” AI narrator-voice?

                        I hate the AI voiceover feature. It's genuinely baffling that YT released it. It sounds worse than microsoft sam and is one of the buggiest messes I have ever seen on the platform.

                        For the people who don't know: you can deactivate it by selecting a different audio track. And it will mostly remember the selection.

                        I know creators who started to deactivate it for their channel, as it genuinely made people unsubscribe, because they thought it was done by the channel

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                          That doesn't work anymore and I say this as a long time user. In the last 5 years their algorithm has gotten worse and worse. I have an extensive subscription list and the junk they push at me these days never matches any of the videos I currently watch. Deleting history and trying to rebuild it doesn't help. OP's feelings here is widely held with many users these days.

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                          that's literally impossible.

                          The subscriptions tab has been, and still is, only from channels you actively clicked "subscribe" to. If you see trash in there, it's because you subscribed.

                          There is 0 algorithm in there.

                          This is the feed: https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

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                          • S [email protected]

                            that's literally impossible.

                            The subscriptions tab has been, and still is, only from channels you actively clicked "subscribe" to. If you see trash in there, it's because you subscribed.

                            There is 0 algorithm in there.

                            This is the feed: https://www.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions

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                            It's not about what you already watch, op wants to find new related videos to watch. YouTube's algo no longer works that way

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                              It's not about what you already watch, op wants to find new related videos to watch. YouTube's algo no longer works that way

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                              Ah, I thought you meant trash stuff showing in your sub feed.

                              Yes, it has gotten worse, but tbh, it's not that bad for me. Recommendations still are basically stuff related to what I watch.

                              There tends to sometimes pop up weird stuff when I click on videos that people send me, but as soon as I remove that video from my history it's back to normal

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                              • T [email protected]

                                Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                                Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                                I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                                What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                                As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                                There are some extensions that make a big difference.

                                "Blocktube" sounds like one you'd get a lot of use out of - all it does is add a block video and block channel option to the drop down menu of each video.

                                Get that AI voice or any other content that indicates the entire channel is garbage, just block the entire channel in one click. Be aggressive with blocking channels, and you'll start noticing much less trash in your feed.

                                Block video is more useful for the channels you're subscribed to -once you've watched a video, block it as a kind of "mark as read" button. That way your recommended videos won't keep showing you shit you've already seen.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                                  Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                                  I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                                  What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                                  As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                                  I know you just came to ask about the algorithm but I’d be happy to suggest you some great channels (100% human in content) if you could tell me your interests!

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                                    Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                                    I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                                    What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                                    As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                                    Stuff Made Here

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                                      Normally, I use YouTube very little (watch a couple videos a month). However, I've been in bed with an injury for some time now, which has led me to watch quite a bit of YouTube. The thing is, I subscribe to a small handfull of channels that I enjoy content from, but after a relatively short time I had watched pretty much all the new content from those channels.

                                      Now, I would expect that the YouTube algorithm, which is supposedly designed by competent people to get me to stick around, would be able to suggest some decent content to me based on my subscriptions. However, the past week, I've opened YouTube only to find the same old videos being suggested over and over. Even worse: Whenever there's something interesting-looking from a channel I don't recognise, it always turns out to be some shitty AI voice over some generic animations or footage.

                                      I know for a fact that thousands of hours of content are created on YouTube daily, but it genuinely feels like there are maybe five creators out there that are making anything worth watching. It's either that, or the YouTube algorithm is just complete crap at suggesting creators that are in any way similar to what I'm already subscribing to.

                                      What's going on here? Why does it seem like there's no real content out there?

                                      As a "funny" side note: What's with the "aggressively American" AI narrator-voice? I've heard it before, but thought it was some dude until I realised it's the same voice in a bunch of unrelated videos. It reminds me of the Discovery-channel "action-narrator"-voice from back in the day, but now it's showing up in all kinds of crap videos.

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                                      My recos are great. 🤷‍♂️

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                                      • vanilla_puddinfudge@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                                        Youtube's algorithm is now Show the user videos like the last two they watched and NOTHING ELSE

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                                        The other day I started off watching a video about fixing the vinyl on my center console in my car. Left to check a few things and when I came back it was some right wing BS.

                                        On youtube your always 5 videos away from rightwing propaganda.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          that was my reaction as well.

                                          I did a non-scientific poll in my friendscircle and fedi followers, and aparently only about a quarter of the people even know that "subscriptions" is an actual tab.

                                          They just assume if they subscribe, that it will show up on the home page / main feed somehow.

                                          It absolutely explains the "youtube unsubbed me from you" comments you always see. They never were subscribed in the first place (always saw releases on the home page when YT felt like it). Or they subbed, but never use the sub tab

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                                          I didn't know there was a feed. The subscription page is what I have bookmarked, not the home page. People have complained about not getting notified of new videos, but that hasn't happened to me once in the 15+ years I have been using YouTube.

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