Why don't the whole planet just use UTC+00:00 / Universal Time without time zones?
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For no time zones?
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οΈDo you also want the day to change from Sunday to Monday in the middle of your Sunday morning? Or do we change days at different hours everywhere?
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The cultural relationship with time is more important than its absolute measurement.
Tell that to the trains.
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I see this argument all the time. Forget all the tradition, "people like noon near solar noon", all that.
Date changes mid day some places and not others would be a nightmare for so many things.
What're you doing on the Tuesday half of June 15/16th?
This sounds like something legitimately terrifying, but I'm struggling to make it concrete. Could you expand on the example a bit?
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Do you also want the day to change from Sunday to Monday in the middle of your Sunday morning? Or do we change days at different hours everywhere?
Everyone changes days at the same time. That's the point.
You would get used to the switchover being in the middle of your working/waking day.
This wouldn't be a big deal and if it were the status quo I bet someone, if not you, would be saying how dumb having everyone on different days would be in the mirror universe version of this thread.
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I see this argument all the time. Forget all the tradition, "people like noon near solar noon", all that.
Date changes mid day some places and not others would be a nightmare for so many things.
What're you doing on the Tuesday half of June 15/16th?
This happens anyway. I literally have meetings every week where it's Tuesday night for everyone else on the meeting, and Wednesday morning for me.
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I mistook your original comment about the alarm clock. I wasn't reading it as the clocks in all timezones being set to UTC and rather that you wanted to keep your daily routine aligned with the daily solar cycle of the time zone you left.
Ahh, no! I was agreeing with the top comment that using UTC everywhere would cause more problems. Glad we're on the same page now!
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This sounds like something legitimately terrifying, but I'm struggling to make it concrete. Could you expand on the example a bit?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Take some place currently having UTC+12 time zone, say Marshall Islands. Midnight by UTC, the moment date changes, is exactly noon there. So how should people there talk about time? There is no "Tuesday the 15th of May" there, because every day is one part one date, other part another date
So yeah. For computers and programmers "whole planet lives in UTC" might look like a boon (for a time I myself wished for it), but only until they start facing other, more twisted problems
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Everyone changes days at the same time. That's the point.
You would get used to the switchover being in the middle of your working/waking day.
This wouldn't be a big deal and if it were the status quo I bet someone, if not you, would be saying how dumb having everyone on different days would be in the mirror universe version of this thread.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like a major PITA. At all.
"What's the date?"
"I don't know; what's the time?"
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Why isn't this a popular thing?
Momentum
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Milliseconds since the epoch is the only true time
2 more bits could have kept us in the same epoch pretty much forever. What were they thinking??
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Because timezones were a result of town specific clocks, which were a result of people liking certain hours happening generally in line with where the sun is, like "noon" which still technically refers to when the sun is at its highest point.
Its a simple matter to define noon as whatever utc time you want for wherever you are
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Why isn't this a popular thing?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Here are some reasons told through what-if.
TL;DR:
People like to sleep in the dark generally, and businesses that close are open when more people are awake. -
2 more bits could have kept us in the same epoch pretty much forever. What were they thinking??
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You get over 584 million years in 2^64 ms. 66-bit computers are a bit tough to come by!
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You get over 584 million years in 2^64 ms. 66-bit computers are a bit tough to come by!
Unix time is 32bit seconds, not milliseconds
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Why isn't this a popular thing?
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Yeah, that doesn't sound like a major PITA. At all.
"What's the date?"
"I don't know; what's the time?"
Have you ... have you never stayed up past midnight?
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Tell that to the trains.
Trains still accepted that noon should be near the middle of the day. Time zones came from railroads trying to standardize time.
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Trains still accepted that noon should be near the middle of the day. Time zones came from railroads trying to standardize time.
kind of my point. Trains need accurately measured time in order to run properly.
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Because we like midnight to happen at night, and noon to happen during the day
wrote on last edited by [email protected].
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Why isn't this a popular thing?
because despite all the technological advancement, we still live enclosed in these self-ambulatory lumps of flesh that crave the sun.
