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  • G [email protected]

    I don't think you understand.

    1000001812

    https://www.democracynow.org/2025/6/16/no_kings

    just pointing out, Scotland only has 5.5 million people living in it.

    1000001813

    that would mean for Scotland to "do a better job at protesting this fuck than the US." every single man, woman, child and elder would have to be in your streets right now.

    how shit is that, you can't even organize 5 million people for a simple protest.

    update: I'm not even going to wait on this because the numbers are abysmal. Edinburgh is calling in "hundreds" of protestors and I'll give the benefit of the doubt to Scotland and say there's 1000 protestors nationwide.

    many of you twats argued it should be measured by per capita, so let's do that.

    Scotland

    • population 5,500,000
    • trump golf protest 1000
    • per capita 0.00018

    in comparison to the US.

    • population 347,411,739
    • no kings 5,000,000
    • per capita 0.014

    but hey, it's not a competition, I just don't like it when someone denigrates the efforts of people to make themselves feel better. I know what you're thinking, "aren't you being a little hypocritical?" no I'm not, because I'm simply calling out bullshit with facts.

    those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

    don't like it? tough shit. next time don't talk shit and there won't be shit.

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    Yes Scotland has a population of approx 5.5M so in order to have a higher percentage of the population protesting they'd need to have 80K people take to the streets just like Greenland would need 760 people to outperform the states.

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      time doesn't determine who is right, only who is left. that's why the future is ours

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      #54

      lol

      wtf are you even talking about?

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        Yes Scotland has a population of approx 5.5M so in order to have a higher percentage of the population protesting they'd need to have 80K people take to the streets just like Greenland would need 760 people to outperform the states.

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        yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren't measured by per capita, right?

        please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests...

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        • G [email protected]

          thank you for telling Americans how they are being Americans wrong from the comfort of your own country.

          it swells my heart with pride knowing that a Frenchman is telling my countrymen how to be more American by assassinating their leaders. going as far as glorifying the assassination of one of our most beloved leaders as a blueprint.

          we will gladly risk life imprisonment at a darksite in a tiny windowless cell, where we will never see our families or loved ones again. All because YOU said we should do it.

          we will risk death so that you can go back to feeling slightly less inconvenienced in your country, France.

          can you please forgive us lowly peasants for ever questioning you?

          suck my dick

          it's fucking hilarious that of all the Europeans to come this hard at Americans, it's the fucking French. leave it to the Frenchman to tell someone else to die for a cause they don't have a cause in. no fear of death, nor retribution, nor punishment.

          will you open your country to my family after the deed is done? I will most likely parish, and my family would be hunted down and killed like animals, if not by the government then by the fanatics. would you risk an open war with America and fight for the protection of my loved ones? Would you feed them, clothe them. Would you allow your countrymen to die for them? would YOU die for them?

          I didn't think so.

          Ceux qui croient à des absurdités commettront des atrocités.

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          As an American: you should shut the fuck up with the French stereotypes. Using those tropes and stereotypes as a serious insult or attack only serves to prove your own (stereotypically American) deep ignorance of French history and culture.

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            yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren't measured by per capita, right?

            please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests...

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            But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it's harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.

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            • M [email protected]

              I really don't care that much about protests against fascists.

              let me know when real action is being taken

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              Be the change you wanna see.

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              • C [email protected]

                Can't, they put up a massive fence out to a distance of like half a mile and then surrounded it with thousands of cops, no way I can throw eggs that far which is a shame because it's actually in reasonable commute distance.

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                clear signs of a very popular guy that people really like

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                • G [email protected]

                  As an American: you should shut the fuck up with the French stereotypes. Using those tropes and stereotypes as a serious insult or attack only serves to prove your own (stereotypically American) deep ignorance of French history and culture.

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                  I wasn't using stereotypes. I was using historical references to how the French refused to aid America in the revolutionary war unless they directly gained from it.

                  I was also alluding to how the French aristocracy used to starve the peasants and overindulge.

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                    But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it's harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.

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                    stop being an idiot.

                    per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.

                    protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.

                    you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."

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                    • G [email protected]

                      stop being an idiot.

                      per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.

                      protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.

                      you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."

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                      You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.

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                      • K [email protected]

                        You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.

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                        what's more impressive for a protest:

                        1. 100% of a national population
                        2. 5 million from a national population

                        Jesus the next thing you're going to tell me is that a pound of feathers is less than a pound of gold.

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                        • G [email protected]

                          yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren't measured by per capita, right?

                          please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests...

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                          Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What's happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that's over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody's impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.

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                          • G [email protected]

                            I wasn't using stereotypes. I was using historical references to how the French refused to aid America in the revolutionary war unless they directly gained from it.

                            I was also alluding to how the French aristocracy used to starve the peasants and overindulge.

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                            You've managed to pivot from idiot to twat. Take a breather.

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                              Trump assassinated?

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                              I would take massive heart attack while cheating at golf.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                you can't even argue with facts so you attack me for being right?

                                pathetic.

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                                Using absolute numbers when describing turnout rather than proportion is completely nonsensical. It's clear you are not going to discuss in good faith.

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                                  stop being an idiot.

                                  per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.

                                  protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.

                                  you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."

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                                  Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it's a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I'm not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.

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                                    Why no throw eggs and bricks ? the easiest way.
                                    US won't fight for it self, let alone the politic spam about Trump.

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                                    • C [email protected]

                                      Can't, they put up a massive fence out to a distance of like half a mile and then surrounded it with thousands of cops, no way I can throw eggs that far which is a shame because it's actually in reasonable commute distance.

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                                      The War Wolf once harried a Scottish castle it'd do the trick, just gotta get some Englishmen to help build one.

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                                        Using absolute numbers when describing turnout rather than proportion is completely nonsensical. It's clear you are not going to discuss in good faith.

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                                        the original comment didn't mention anything about proportion or per capita. you just assumed that's what they meant because you can't argue numbers after I presented the real numbers.

                                        comment figuratively tried to compare apples to apples, so I gave fair comparison with context.

                                        how do you like them apples

                                        I guess after the protests I'll have to come back and show you even by per capita Scotland still failed to bolster the support we "weak Americans" gathered.

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                                          Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it's a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I'm not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.

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                                          so now we're talking about volume over mobilization.

                                          so 5 million over 2100 cities isn't impressive enough?

                                          keep moving those goal posts troll.

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