Scotland streets fill with protestors as Trump arrives to play golf
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thank you for telling Americans how they are being Americans wrong from the comfort of your own country.
it swells my heart with pride knowing that a Frenchman is telling my countrymen how to be more American by assassinating their leaders. going as far as glorifying the assassination of one of our most beloved leaders as a blueprint.
we will gladly risk life imprisonment at a darksite in a tiny windowless cell, where we will never see our families or loved ones again. All because YOU said we should do it.
we will risk death so that you can go back to feeling slightly less inconvenienced in your country, France.
can you please forgive us lowly peasants for ever questioning you?
it's fucking hilarious that of all the Europeans to come this hard at Americans, it's the fucking French. leave it to the Frenchman to tell someone else to die for a cause they don't have a cause in. no fear of death, nor retribution, nor punishment.
will you open your country to my family after the deed is done? I will most likely parish, and my family would be hunted down and killed like animals, if not by the government then by the fanatics. would you risk an open war with America and fight for the protection of my loved ones? Would you feed them, clothe them. Would you allow your countrymen to die for them? would YOU die for them?
I didn't think so.
Ceux qui croient à des absurdités commettront des atrocités.
As an American: you should shut the fuck up with the French stereotypes. Using those tropes and stereotypes as a serious insult or attack only serves to prove your own (stereotypically American) deep ignorance of French history and culture.
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yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren't measured by per capita, right?
please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests...
But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it's harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.
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I really don't care that much about protests against fascists.
let me know when real action is being taken
Be the change you wanna see.
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Can't, they put up a massive fence out to a distance of like half a mile and then surrounded it with thousands of cops, no way I can throw eggs that far which is a shame because it's actually in reasonable commute distance.
clear signs of a very popular guy that people really like
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As an American: you should shut the fuck up with the French stereotypes. Using those tropes and stereotypes as a serious insult or attack only serves to prove your own (stereotypically American) deep ignorance of French history and culture.
I wasn't using stereotypes. I was using historical references to how the French refused to aid America in the revolutionary war unless they directly gained from it.
I was also alluding to how the French aristocracy used to starve the peasants and overindulge.
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But that perspective matters a whole f** lot. Talking about a percentual mobilisation of people is quite relevant, you know, even if it's harder to organise a protest in a territory as vast as USA.
stop being an idiot.
per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.
protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.
you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."
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stop being an idiot.
per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.
protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.
you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."
You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.
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You stop being a fucking moron. Of course it's a valid measure of public opinion and engagement. The point is to display force relative to the size of the entity being protested. Take the Serbian or Georgian protests. A whole lot more impressive. If you can't see that no one can help you.
what's more impressive for a protest:
- 100% of a national population
- 5 million from a national population
Jesus the next thing you're going to tell me is that a pound of feathers is less than a pound of gold.
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yes, per capita. do you know why protests aren't measured by per capita, right?
please tell me you understand why per capita is a bad metric to distinguish protests...
Protests are measured in raw numbers because if you said 1.4% of the population of the usa gave enough of a fuck to turn up, it would show just how little you people care about What's happening in your country. And if you compare that to the protests Georgians had about the Russification of their government, they had raw numbers of around 169000 at the low end, but that's over 4% of their population. So yeah if you want your passive population to seem politically engaged, by all means use the raw numbers, but nobody's impressed when the survival of your country is on the line and only 1.4% can be bothered showing up.
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I wasn't using stereotypes. I was using historical references to how the French refused to aid America in the revolutionary war unless they directly gained from it.
I was also alluding to how the French aristocracy used to starve the peasants and overindulge.
You've managed to pivot from idiot to twat. Take a breather.
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Trump assassinated?
I would take massive heart attack while cheating at golf.
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you can't even argue with facts so you attack me for being right?
pathetic.
Using absolute numbers when describing turnout rather than proportion is completely nonsensical. It's clear you are not going to discuss in good faith.
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stop being an idiot.
per capita matters when you're dealing with inequalities or averages across a nation.
protests are measured by participants or volume. this is because the whole point of a protest is to convey a message by display of force.
you think someone will look at a protest and go, "looks like 1% of the population of the nation is here."
Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it's a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I'm not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.
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Why no throw eggs and bricks ? the easiest way.
US won't fight for it self, let alone the politic spam about Trump. -
Can't, they put up a massive fence out to a distance of like half a mile and then surrounded it with thousands of cops, no way I can throw eggs that far which is a shame because it's actually in reasonable commute distance.
The War Wolf once harried a Scottish castle it'd do the trick, just gotta get some Englishmen to help build one.
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Using absolute numbers when describing turnout rather than proportion is completely nonsensical. It's clear you are not going to discuss in good faith.
the original comment didn't mention anything about proportion or per capita. you just assumed that's what they meant because you can't argue numbers after I presented the real numbers.
comment figuratively tried to compare apples to apples, so I gave fair comparison with context.
I guess after the protests I'll have to come back and show you even by per capita Scotland still failed to bolster the support we "weak Americans" gathered.
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Yeah people within a country will talk raw numbers, but it's a fucking stupid way to compare mobilisation between countries. 100000 in the Scottish media looks a lot more impressive than 5m on an American news station. At this point I'm not sure wether your trolling or huffing solvents.
so now we're talking about volume over mobilization.
so 5 million over 2100 cities isn't impressive enough?
keep moving those goal posts troll.
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the original comment didn't mention anything about proportion or per capita. you just assumed that's what they meant because you can't argue numbers after I presented the real numbers.
comment figuratively tried to compare apples to apples, so I gave fair comparison with context.
I guess after the protests I'll have to come back and show you even by per capita Scotland still failed to bolster the support we "weak Americans" gathered.
I guess you prefer dunking on people online to doing anything about your fascist leaders and neighbours.
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Let's do per capita then:
"hundreds of protesters" (we'll round up to 1000) of 5.5 million => 0.018%
5 million of 347 million => 1.4%
I assume the original comment was a joke but glad you to get to feel so high and mighty about it.
I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.
In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.
They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.
Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal
So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.
Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.
And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.
Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.
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I’m really not sure what you’re trying to prove.
In one country 0.018% rocks up at a moment’s notice for a guy they could care less about and has no real effect on their lives, isn’t deporting their families or screwing them out of medicare. He’s not disrespecting their vets or pulling them off food stamps. He’s coming over to golf, that’s the extent of the relation.
They just don’t like him and will make some time on whatever Sunday he rocks up to tell him that.
Compare that to to 1.4% (barely 100x more) protesting after years of crimes, n and proud admissions of rape, child molestation, cheating at 3 elections, being illegitimate installed as president right now, impeachments, thousands of illegal deportations of fellow citizens or countrymen, complete bonkers enrichment with crypto scams, gross incompetence on lots of levels, including militarily and economically, embroiled in scandal after scandal
So after MONTHS of organising, there were 2 protests which had over 1% of the population out on the streets. And now… nothing. Not even a general strike. Because the free markets are so free, you freely would like to express your freedom of expression if you only were actually free.
Have a look at when that magical 1% threshold was breached in other countries historically and for what reasons.
And while you’re there, look at what happened after. Typically when you have 1% protests, they are met with action from the goverment. Promises and changes are made to appease the protesters. Back in the USA, they went home, and stayed home. Deportations continued afterwards. And then a bill was signed to make ICE the new gestapo and become the biggest domestic paramilitary organisation in the world.
Not sure why anyone would ever try to claim “Americans are great protesters, and love civil action”.
"Barely 100x more."
