Type of key? And how to get broken part out of lock?
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
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Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
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I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
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Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Unlock the door and remove those screws holding the latch in the door.
Once you’ve removed the lock you should be able to disassemble it and push the stuck key out or worst case, replace the lock cylinder.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Use a broken key extractor.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
I got a key out of a similar situation in the folks RV the other day using a small flat screw driver and a knife to pinch the key and pull it out...
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]A neodymium magnet could work, maybe even a fake one from Amazon
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Some superglue on the broken part of the key and reattach it, or alternatively superglue a few paper clips or other thin metal objects to the key in the door. Using more than one will spread out the force used to pull.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Dental pick, like the kind that your hygienist uses to give you PTSD should do the trick.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This looks like a similar setup to some security doors I've messed with.
Edit: what about using a unfolded paperclip and push from the other side. The plan I had when I started writing this probably won't work as accessing the key cylinder will only likely get access the keyhole.
Edit2 id also hit it with a spray from a can of WD-40 (lubricant) and hope that helps work things loose.
Below is probably useless but it was my train if thought initially.
They have a removable part so the locks can be rekeyed easily by a locksmith by replacing some pins on the inside to match the keys.
Edit 3 if removing fails and you need to replace a part, you probably could get away with just replacing the locking part and not the whole handle mechanism.
In the ones Ive used a screw on the door matches up holding the locking cylinder component. Probably the one just above the deadbolt.
Try unscrewing this to see if the cylinder the key is stuck in can be removed.
Go very carefully as I don't know what is actually holding the stack of pins which match your key and if these pins fall out, finding which go where will be very hard and very fiddly.
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Dental pick, like the kind that your hygienist uses to give you PTSD should do the trick.
An $8 dental kit has been a life saver in so many situations.
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Use a broken key extractor.
Neat! Didn't know there was such a thing. Another poster suggested a dental pick kit, not as good but more versatile.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
I'd drill into the thickest part with a small drill, then tilt it and gently pull it out with the key.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Hot glue gun glue stick. Melt end, attach, wait a few, pull.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Dimple lock. The pins move sideways instead of up and down. Not familiar with the brand.
You could try and straighten a small fish hook to remove the broken key.
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An $8 dental kit has been a life saver in so many situations.
Or slightly more expensive, if legal in your area, are actual locksmith tools.
I have a pick set I busted out this morning to unlock a pad lock on our circuit breaker (outside for some stupid reason, locked because its a new development and we had construction workers turn the house off while me and the wife were the only people on our respective jobs working the shift remotely)
We need power to run desktops. A UPS is handy, but its a bandaid to shut down correctly until power is restored fully.
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1. Type of key?
The brand is Phillips but they make various types. The type here is (not sure of the correct jargon) without vertical ridges and notches. And both sides of the key are identical.
I've looked at some diagrams of key types and I'm not sure exactly. Is it a "dimple key"? Something else?
2. How to remove broken part from lock?
Location: Door between bedroom and garden.
Situation:
-
Someone bent the key a little, and it was stuck, couldn't get it out. On the inside of the door. At that point still able to lock and unlock from the inside only. Using other key from the outside does nothing, doesn't even turn.
-
I tried gently straightening it but it immediately snapped.
-
Now: can still open and close the door using the handle. Can still, with difficulty, lock and unlock the door (from inside only) by carefully pressing the head of the key against what is in the lock and turning.
A lot of info online for removing broken key blades from locks are for the "traditional" kind of key with vertical ridges and notches.
I have a screwdriver that fits all the screws and I can access all sides of the lock (inside, outside, edge), but I'm not sure if that's relevant. I've tried tweezers but it's too snug.
If I need more tools or equipment, I'll get them tomorrow.
Any time I've had a key stuck like this I've used something sharp and just stabbed it down into the top of the key and leveraged it against the lock itself. Keys are way softer than people think.
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This looks like a similar setup to some security doors I've messed with.
Edit: what about using a unfolded paperclip and push from the other side. The plan I had when I started writing this probably won't work as accessing the key cylinder will only likely get access the keyhole.
Edit2 id also hit it with a spray from a can of WD-40 (lubricant) and hope that helps work things loose.
Below is probably useless but it was my train if thought initially.
They have a removable part so the locks can be rekeyed easily by a locksmith by replacing some pins on the inside to match the keys.
Edit 3 if removing fails and you need to replace a part, you probably could get away with just replacing the locking part and not the whole handle mechanism.
In the ones Ive used a screw on the door matches up holding the locking cylinder component. Probably the one just above the deadbolt.
Try unscrewing this to see if the cylinder the key is stuck in can be removed.
Go very carefully as I don't know what is actually holding the stack of pins which match your key and if these pins fall out, finding which go where will be very hard and very fiddly.
WD-40 is not a lubricant, it can do it short term, but makes things worse long term.
WD-40 literally stands for Water Displacement - Formula 40.
Its to keep mechanical components hydrophobic so they don't rust or otherwise degrade due to the presence of water.
For locks and keyways, you want powdered graphite as a lubricant. I keep a small tube (puffer style) in my pick kit if needed.
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Any time I've had a key stuck like this I've used something sharp and just stabbed it down into the top of the key and leveraged it against the lock itself. Keys are way softer than people think.
I’m pretty strong for being a middle aged woman (so not strong in general), and I can break a key in a lock relatively easily with just my hands.
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A neodymium magnet could work, maybe even a fake one from Amazon
Keys are brass, not magnetic
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Unlock the door and remove those screws holding the latch in the door.
Once you’ve removed the lock you should be able to disassemble it and push the stuck key out or worst case, replace the lock cylinder.
This is the answer.
The only downside is you can see how stripped those screws are even in this photo. That'll be fun.
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Hot glue gun glue stick. Melt end, attach, wait a few, pull.
Yep. I’ve also used a paper clip, straightened out with a very small bend at the end.
I’ve also used chewing gum, though you have to wait it for it to harden a little. Duct tape might work too.
You only have to get it to move out a tiny amount. Then you can get a pair of needle nose pliers on it and pull it out.
That particular key looks challenging though.
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This is the answer.
The only downside is you can see how stripped those screws are even in this photo. That'll be fun.
Yep. Use a rubber band in the screw when trying to unscrew it to help with a bit extra grip and then never use those screws again either. Either that or use a Dremel to turn it into a flat head screw and remove them.
