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With peace talks underway, Ukrainian political veterans align themselves with Trump

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      Ukrainian political veterans? you mean the pro-russia thieves they tossed out in 2014? Or the remaining russian stooges. Glad to hear the white house is getting involved with yet another election. We really just do anything russia does now.

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        Ukrainian political veterans? you mean the pro-russia thieves they tossed out in 2014? Or the remaining russian stooges. Glad to hear the white house is getting involved with yet another election. We really just do anything russia does now.

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        Not really.

        The only veteran with weight here is Petro Poroshenko, the president who took office after Yanukovich fled, and left office after losing elections to Zelensky.

        Sadly, Poroshenko has been harassed quite considerably (charges are being considered, his properties have been sanctioned)... for things he did as a president, didi publicly, and at that moment, did for the benefit of Ukraine. One of those deeds was buying coal from Russian-occupied territories - until coal could be obtained from other places.

        To me, the accusations against him have seemed more than a bit unfair - a man who did what he could in 2014 has been held against today's standards and found wanting.

        It is natural that Trumpists would seek out Poroshenko and try to talk him over to their side. Him being pissed off at restrictions, he might not reject their advances.

        Former President Petro Poroshenko, the de facto leader of Ukraine's opposition, said following the scuffle that he wouldn't criticize Zelensky "because this is not what the country needs now."

        Following his team’s reported meetings with members of the Trump administration, the former president changed his tune and lashed out at his successor.

        He criticized Zelensky for the sanctions imposed on him and said that Zelensky is the "unfortunate leader of the team who moves the nation to dictatorship."

        However, on the background of today's Ukraine, the person with the biggest amount of support - ex-commander of the armed forces Zaluzhny - has probably not been approached, or has rejected them.

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          Not really.

          The only veteran with weight here is Petro Poroshenko, the president who took office after Yanukovich fled, and left office after losing elections to Zelensky.

          Sadly, Poroshenko has been harassed quite considerably (charges are being considered, his properties have been sanctioned)... for things he did as a president, didi publicly, and at that moment, did for the benefit of Ukraine. One of those deeds was buying coal from Russian-occupied territories - until coal could be obtained from other places.

          To me, the accusations against him have seemed more than a bit unfair - a man who did what he could in 2014 has been held against today's standards and found wanting.

          It is natural that Trumpists would seek out Poroshenko and try to talk him over to their side. Him being pissed off at restrictions, he might not reject their advances.

          Former President Petro Poroshenko, the de facto leader of Ukraine's opposition, said following the scuffle that he wouldn't criticize Zelensky "because this is not what the country needs now."

          Following his team’s reported meetings with members of the Trump administration, the former president changed his tune and lashed out at his successor.

          He criticized Zelensky for the sanctions imposed on him and said that Zelensky is the "unfortunate leader of the team who moves the nation to dictatorship."

          However, on the background of today's Ukraine, the person with the biggest amount of support - ex-commander of the armed forces Zaluzhny - has probably not been approached, or has rejected them.

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          Thank you for the insight. Will have to look into this more.

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