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US Government Gives Elon Musk Permission to Detonate Rockets Over a Sacred Hawaian Island

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  • R [email protected]

    bbbut the historical site! They are dropping it over the Gulf of Mexico right now so why shouldn't we move the debris field? Is there really a bigger problem doing it here or is it because Hawaiians are just pissed off they will be the recipients now?

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    "let's just do some more colonialism! it will be fine"

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      "let's just do some more colonialism! it will be fine"

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      You mean colonize Hawaii, a US state? How in the fuck do you even think this?

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        No more satellites? No more space missions?

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        By spacex?

        Yes. No more from them.

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        • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

          ruining earth does not justify the shit missions spacex does making our orbits more hostile to real science

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          I'm unaware, AFAIK SpaceX is the leading launch provider in the world, taking the place of NASA. Is that a good thing? Probably not but if we're not going to fund it at a government level someone has to do it.

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            For what it's worth, I agree with you 100%. I'd love to see Musk fail in every one of his business endeavors, but if we're going to drop space garbage over the planet, an uninhabited island seems like a great place to do it. The fact that a small group of people has superstitious ideas about that small patch of land should be irrelevant.

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            this attitude is the problem with religion though. it's not that the religion isn't guided by science, but the idea that one groups needs supercede another group's. the hawaiians are the native keepers of this ecosystem. for thousands of years they have been there maintaining it. now because another group wants it for something else we're just supposed to ignore them? fuck that. this is the same attitude that gave us the crusades, the rape of africa, the potato famine, and boarding schools for indigenous people in north america. it doesn't matter that those acts were done by people who claimed to have god on their side and you claim there is no god.

            what matters is those acts were done by people claiming to be more advanced than the backwards people they were doing it to, which is exactly what you are advocating for here

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              I think the Pelekais will want to file a countersuit against the U.S. Government in response to this, and try to force an impeachment vote in the House of Representations against Donald Trump.

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              • D [email protected]

                tramping religious rights of locals is fine, but don't you dare to touch christianity. Christian churches get tax exemptions etc. I'm an atheist but this is a glaring discriminatiin. You either disregard all religions or tiptoe around all of them there's nothing in between

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                Buuttt its won na†ion udder gawdℹ️ dat meens da gauze my speeceefec demonination ass aye understand heam‼️

                [/s]

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                • R [email protected]

                  You mean colonize Hawaii, a US state? How in the fuck do you even think this?

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                  the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain

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                  • D [email protected]

                    tramping religious rights of locals is fine, but don't you dare to touch christianity. Christian churches get tax exemptions etc. I'm an atheist but this is a glaring discriminatiin. You either disregard all religions or tiptoe around all of them there's nothing in between

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                    it's time to accept that America is a Christian nation. it shouldn't be, but we're already getting Christian sharia laws, like women should be forced to give birth even if they die, or if the fetus is non viable.

                    there will be more sharia coming soon.

                    we should call those laws like that.

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                    • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ [email protected]

                      the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain

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                      Are they Americans or not? I know that's a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We're not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.

                      Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.

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                        He's a defiler. POS Star links are everywhere in the sky polluting the sky with streaks and dots for anyone interested in astronomy.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          The religious significance of an uninhabited island seems like a nothingburger compared to this:

                          Along with allowing Musk to rain schrapnel down near Mokumanamana, the FAA also granted SpaceX the ability to do so around Hawaii's eight main islands — which are populated with American citizens

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                          Ah, but those Americans are mostly Democrats so they aren't really Americans and are gonna lose their citizenship and be deported soon anyway. /S

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                            What the deuce?

                            They must not have had Brady Bunch reruns in South Africa?

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                              A few days ago I was watching stars with a friend and every few minutes we would see satellite after satellite. Yeah that was distracting.

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                                A few days ago I was watching stars with a friend and every few minutes we would see satellite after satellite. Yeah that was distracting.

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                                Their future e-waste is now part of the view, just gotta accept it and hope the billboards up there aren't developed in our lifetime.

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                                • K [email protected]

                                  He's a defiler. POS Star links are everywhere in the sky polluting the sky with streaks and dots for anyone interested in astronomy.

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                                  He's a defiler.

                                  That’s why you can’t let Zerg get to late game. Guessing he’s going defiler/hydra/lurker? Sounds like we need firebats so we can still do damage under dark swarm. He might counter with scourge/guardians so watch for a greater spire for a good attack timing.

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    I'm unaware, AFAIK SpaceX is the leading launch provider in the world, taking the place of NASA. Is that a good thing? Probably not but if we're not going to fund it at a government level someone has to do it.

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                                    Space X has received over $20 billion of funding from the us federal government. We are funding at a government level.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      Are they Americans or not? I know that's a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We're not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.

                                      Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.

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                                      Why not the Hamptons or Atherton?

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                                        Why not the Hamptons or Atherton?

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                                        I think it's too far from the equator or some shit.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Are they Americans or not? I know that's a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We're not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.

                                          Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.

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                                          you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don't need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn't doing launches isn't reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of "progress" while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.

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