US Government Gives Elon Musk Permission to Detonate Rockets Over a Sacred Hawaian Island
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Not much remains of them upon reentry. At least nothing that can be called e-waste.
they just aerosolize creating even faster global warming
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A few days ago I was watching stars with a friend and every few minutes we would see satellite after satellite. Yeah that was distracting.
Same here, I would rarely see a satellite and mostly only during dusk. Two nights ago I was participating in a star gazing activity as par of a birthday party and it's busy up there now
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A few days ago I was watching stars with a friend and every few minutes we would see satellite after satellite. Yeah that was distracting.
That's mostly musk too: https://phys.org/news/2025-07-satellite-constellations-bright-threaten-astronomy.html
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they just aerosolize creating even faster global warming
Wouldn't high-altitude metallic aerosols do the opposite?
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The religious significance of an uninhabited island seems like a nothingburger compared to this:
Along with allowing Musk to rain schrapnel down near Mokumanamana, the FAA also granted SpaceX the ability to do so around Hawaii's eight main islands — which are populated with American citizens
lol why did they emphasize that they are American citizens? So if these were non-Americans it would be fine I guess.
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That's no surprise, the only thing Trump considers sacred is Trump.
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Wouldn't high-altitude metallic aerosols do the opposite?
unfortunately no. per my understanding the problem with starlink satellites burning up on re-entry are two fold:
- the aerosolized aluminum retains heat, not reflects it
- the aerosolized aluminum reacts with ozone, damaging a critical protective layer against the greenhouse effect
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unfortunately no. per my understanding the problem with starlink satellites burning up on re-entry are two fold:
- the aerosolized aluminum retains heat, not reflects it
- the aerosolized aluminum reacts with ozone, damaging a critical protective layer against the greenhouse effect
Dang, that sucks XD
Should have made their frames with zinc alloy instead!
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lol why did they emphasize that they are American citizens? So if these were non-Americans it would be fine I guess.
It’s not about Americans, it’s about humans. I’m just quoting the article directly.
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lol why did they emphasize that they are American citizens? So if these were non-Americans it would be fine I guess.
You joke, but this is how a lot of people actually think. It's fucking gross.
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Nobody feels like having a debate about your militant atheism, hence downvotes without comments. Please don't see this as an invitation for said debate either. I don't care. You're either being intentionally edgy or willfully ignorant, neither of which are the base for a fruitful conversation.
I don’t understand where atheism came into this discussion. Is that just your pet issue you bring up all the time?
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I don’t understand where atheism came into this discussion. Is that just your pet issue you bring up all the time?
I don’t understand where atheism came into this discussion
Get your eyes checked. If you can read the text and didn't see where this was gonna go then there's no point trying to explain it to you.
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Not much remains of them upon reentry. At least nothing that can be called e-waste.
I thought Kessler-syndrome was the real kicker, not greenhouse gasses.
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Well, I mean after the US annexed Hawaii by overthrowing their king and writing a special "it's OK when we do it" law, doesn't that mean they can do whatever they want?
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Better not mess with sacred stuff in Hawaii. You could wake up with a tarantula crawling on your chest.
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start getting critical. have conversations with our neighbors to shift what's possible. organize ourselves in the streets because the streets is where we win. refuse to accept that this is just the way things must be
cool story bro. I'm getting old and I'm very tired.
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Uninhabited islands are not uninhabitable and the only value of a place is not whether people can live on it. The northwestern Hawaiian islands are a marine sanctuary valued even though barely anyone goes there. This argument is like saying the deep Everglades are unexploited, so we might as well dump our trash there.
What the fuck? They are literally dumping this shit in the Gulf of Mexico RIGHT NOW.
Why is this shitty little island out in the middle of nowhere a problem?!
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cool story bro. I'm getting old and I'm very tired.
same here all around. but if my octogenerian neighbors can take the time to demand that my great grand children i'll never meet have a planet worth living on, then i can do the same for the next generations, too. it doesn't have to be an all consuming fight, it's a marathon not a sprint, afterall. but that marathon starts with setting a goal, and one of those goals should be a planet where a long term view of resource management is taken. just accepting "it has to be somewhere" ignores the truth that it doesn't need to be at all. that people's ancestral lands matter. that clean oceans and ecosystems matter. destroying something in the name of progress isn't progress.
it doesn't have to be much. it starts with saying your local community should be cleaner, and that it shouldn't just dump its waste in another community. we all live together, ultimately.
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same here all around. but if my octogenerian neighbors can take the time to demand that my great grand children i'll never meet have a planet worth living on, then i can do the same for the next generations, too. it doesn't have to be an all consuming fight, it's a marathon not a sprint, afterall. but that marathon starts with setting a goal, and one of those goals should be a planet where a long term view of resource management is taken. just accepting "it has to be somewhere" ignores the truth that it doesn't need to be at all. that people's ancestral lands matter. that clean oceans and ecosystems matter. destroying something in the name of progress isn't progress.
it doesn't have to be much. it starts with saying your local community should be cleaner, and that it shouldn't just dump its waste in another community. we all live together, ultimately.
Which community though? Are we not all Americans?
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Which community though? Are we not all Americans?
we both are. but you have to think global and act local. our power is in our ability to convince the people around us that there's something wrong with the way things are and something to be done about it. so it starts with county politics, state politics, national politics, and then global. movements take years and they always start with shifting what's possible
