What’s even the appeal of Linux?
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...like?
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Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
That when I eventually get sound working again I can feel good about fixing something. One month now without sound and having to use Windows. Will probably have to reinstall because I've tried everything that could find on the internet to fix it without success.
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Linux does not care if the user is still in the vim age or has already progressed to good editors.
Exactly, like neovim for example.
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An Emacs clone.
Which is a nano clone.
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Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
Extra work
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Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
It’s supposedly easier to breath with your nose angled that high up in the air.
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Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
No spyware, much better performance and wear on your hardware. Actual control over your devices. The downside is, linux is complicated and a pain to learn how to use or maintain. Windows is easy to use but so is a vtech laptop which is essentiallly the trade off. It used to be that windows was easy to use and open as a platform, but microsoft is doing everything in its power to ruin windows. The modern developers also really suck and the modern codebase is buggy as hell. The OS kills your harddisks and ssds, even before the new broekn update because they are constantly scanning your files to send signitures to palantir or whatever. They are removing basic functionality and a few years from now I imagine you wont even be allowed to close or open apps, like with Android. It will just be full of ads and spyware and you will have to pay a subscription to use it or something. People have been jumping ship because at this point continuing to use windows is just going to make your life painful in the future.
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No spyware, much better performance and wear on your hardware. Actual control over your devices. The downside is, linux is complicated and a pain to learn how to use or maintain. Windows is easy to use but so is a vtech laptop which is essentiallly the trade off. It used to be that windows was easy to use and open as a platform, but microsoft is doing everything in its power to ruin windows. The modern developers also really suck and the modern codebase is buggy as hell. The OS kills your harddisks and ssds, even before the new broekn update because they are constantly scanning your files to send signitures to palantir or whatever. They are removing basic functionality and a few years from now I imagine you wont even be allowed to close or open apps, like with Android. It will just be full of ads and spyware and you will have to pay a subscription to use it or something. People have been jumping ship because at this point continuing to use windows is just going to make your life painful in the future.
linux is complicated
windows is easy
Speak for yourself there mate lol
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No spyware, much better performance and wear on your hardware. Actual control over your devices. The downside is, linux is complicated and a pain to learn how to use or maintain. Windows is easy to use but so is a vtech laptop which is essentiallly the trade off. It used to be that windows was easy to use and open as a platform, but microsoft is doing everything in its power to ruin windows. The modern developers also really suck and the modern codebase is buggy as hell. The OS kills your harddisks and ssds, even before the new broekn update because they are constantly scanning your files to send signitures to palantir or whatever. They are removing basic functionality and a few years from now I imagine you wont even be allowed to close or open apps, like with Android. It will just be full of ads and spyware and you will have to pay a subscription to use it or something. People have been jumping ship because at this point continuing to use windows is just going to make your life painful in the future.
I find Linux far easier to use than anything else because most decent distros come with all the software I want, or it is trivial to install, and it's all free.
Most of that software is available for Apple or Windows, but it's a PITA to install. Giant waste of time. And money, of course. And of you install Windows, you gotta manually disable all the shit advertising.
All of that without needing the command line, even.
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linux is complicated
windows is easy
Speak for yourself there mate lol
wrote last edited by [email protected]Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutive design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research, shell hacking, and autoruns. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the butt compared to windows- double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, I don't even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions. Modern womdows isnoretty terrible compared to 7 and before but it is still much easier to use for almost every task.
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Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutive design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research, shell hacking, and autoruns. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the butt compared to windows- double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, I don't even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions. Modern womdows isnoretty terrible compared to 7 and before but it is still much easier to use for almost every task.
installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process
pacman -S [software]That was easy.
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Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutive design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research, shell hacking, and autoruns. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the butt compared to windows- double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, I don't even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions. Modern womdows isnoretty terrible compared to 7 and before but it is still much easier to use for almost every task.
i have handed fedora kionite to a non-techie who was super happy with it, cuz it looks like windows, but most of the things you need, you can safely get via discover.
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I find Linux far easier to use than anything else because most decent distros come with all the software I want, or it is trivial to install, and it's all free.
Most of that software is available for Apple or Windows, but it's a PITA to install. Giant waste of time. And money, of course. And of you install Windows, you gotta manually disable all the shit advertising.
All of that without needing the command line, even.
MacOS software is extremely easy to install. Drag package icon from mounted drive (with auto popup) to Applications.
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Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutive design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research, shell hacking, and autoruns. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the butt compared to windows- double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, I don't even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions. Modern womdows isnoretty terrible compared to 7 and before but it is still much easier to use for almost every task.
From what I remember Mint is probably the most brain dead easy Distros you could use. Almost everything has a GUI if I remember. Its mainly a mix of what Distro/DE you use and how much you want to tinker.
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installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process
pacman -S [software]That was easy.
Alternatively yay install [software] or flatpak install [software]
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From what I remember Mint is probably the most brain dead easy Distros you could use. Almost everything has a GUI if I remember. Its mainly a mix of what Distro/DE you use and how much you want to tinker.
Good to know, i havnt researched mint much, but im trying to find the most simple system so i can learn linux on a deep level. Basically the temple OS or Dos or windows XP of linux. Not simple as in UI but in file system and stuff. Debian lets me install KDE which i like so the UI side is fine. Its a bit trickier to understand overlay file systems and stuff.
Maybe half of the software I use is in the discover store. I for whatever reason end up using quite a bit of niche software. I have improved a good bit with installing from scripts and stuff. Sometimes i need to install stuff into the OS tree to get it to work and use propeitary binaries. Installing java, AI dev tools, certian versions of Python to get software to work or compile Its annoying, but im moving to debian which should help with many of these things if i can manage to get it installed.
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i have handed fedora kionite to a non-techie who was super happy with it, cuz it looks like windows, but most of the things you need, you can safely get via discover.
Some things i can get from discover but many things i use i have to manulally install. I just dont want to deal with containers and ostree and stuff. Maybe in the future i will.
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Exactly, like neovim for example.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Ok I lied. I don’t actually use vim, I use neovim. But I don’t daily drive Linux or windows, and neovim does kinda unify my local editing vs ssh experience. So only 50% a shitpost.
I mean, I use vim when I have to, but I have a pretty crazy neovim config I prefer. Also shoutout to stow for helping me sync my neovim config across systems.
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It’s supposedly easier to breath with your nose angled that high up in the air.
Yes, but the air is also thinner up here
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MacOS software is extremely easy to install. Drag package icon from mounted drive (with auto popup) to Applications.
It's even easier with Brew: have terminal window open, type
brew install librewolf& if MacOS complains,xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreWolf.app(for example to get a nice bland browser without corporate spyware). Every now and then,brew upgrade librewolf.
