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Top German lawmaker: Public criticism of Israel has 'zero' effect

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  • F [email protected]

    Israel won't care until the west stops funding them

    Stop supplying them with weapons

    Stop condemning them but still giving them money

    Prosecute them for the war crimes they're committing, and make them pay

    They know that nobody will actually stop them, because they can claim to be victims of antisemitism, a drum they will beat forever, regardless of whether it's valid or not

    The rest of the world is now cowed because of a bronze age fairytale

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    But do any of these and the ADL will jump all over you.

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      But do any of these and the ADL will jump all over you.

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      And what if they do? It's not like they have an army. Let them bleat, and call them out for being mouthpieces for a genocidal state.

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      • diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        Laschet, the chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the Bundestag, Germany's lower house of parliament, said the new conservative-led government's "quiet diplomacy" and "clear words" to Israel were "more effective than constant resolutions and pithy slogans."

        Yeah right. The fuck they are. And in effect he's saying the opposite of what the headline suggests.

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        Cut off funding and impose sanctions before Germany becomes complicit in another genocide.

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            Laschet, the chairman of the foreign affairs committee in the Bundestag, Germany's lower house of parliament, said the new conservative-led government's "quiet diplomacy" and "clear words" to Israel were "more effective than constant resolutions and pithy slogans."

            Yeah right. The fuck they are. And in effect he's saying the opposite of what the headline suggests.

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            It is also blatantly false. Whenever Israel made some concessions in slowing down the genocide it was after a public threat by allied governments.

            Germany has been sabotaging any effort for peace and is now claiming it would have been the one responsible if there is any success. It would be laughable if they weren't complicit in committing genocide.

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              It's so weird. There's still so much shame in Germany for what they did during the second world war, yet now they are actively supporting genocide again and have propaganda laws concerning Israel, as Israel and zionism are now under the anti-antisemitic law. Well done Germany, I guess you never change.

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              • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                It's so weird. There's still so much shame in Germany for what they did during the second world war, yet now they are actively supporting genocide again and have propaganda laws concerning Israel, as Israel and zionism are now under the anti-antisemitic law. Well done Germany, I guess you never change.

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                Germany has always been a big supporter of Zionism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

                This is from before the Holocaust started, so I doubt the underlying reason for their support is guilt for the Holocaust.

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                  Germany has always been a big supporter of Zionism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

                  This is from before the Holocaust started, so I doubt the underlying reason for their support is guilt for the Holocaust.

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                  Germany is ashamed for committing genocide 80 years ago yet now they are doing it again by sending weapons to Israel. And they are covering it up by criminalizing news about it.

                  I'm not saying their guilt is the reason for doing it again, I'm saying it makes no sense as they always said they would do anything to prevent it to ever happen again.

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                    I can't find anything from the article warranting this headline.

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                    • lordwiggle@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                      It's so weird. There's still so much shame in Germany for what they did during the second world war, yet now they are actively supporting genocide again and have propaganda laws concerning Israel, as Israel and zionism are now under the anti-antisemitic law. Well done Germany, I guess you never change.

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                      There's no shame, there's guilt pride. They are jumping right to that, not giving you an option of telling them they haven't repented yet or maybe that they are repenting the wrong way, or not repenting at all.

                      It seems really rare to meet an ashamed German.

                      They are not ashamed of Namibia, just like Belgium is not ashamed of Kongo. That whole "genocidal colonialism is past us" thing was wishful thinking, it was quickly assumed to be already fulfilled and now Europeans judge you for reminding them what their ancestors did and what their nations are doing now, just by Israel's hands or Turkey's or someone else.

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