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US officials object to European push to buy weapons locally

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  • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

    Sounds like the US is looking for reason to either sell their weapons ..... or use them

    Any way you slice it ..... war means profit

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    I hope USA doesn't sell to Russia...

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    • W [email protected]

      Trump never really understood that most US "aid" is literally them recycling old ordinance and equipment to continue siphoning tax dollars into the military industrial complex and it's oligarchs — expenses DOGE have not touched and do not consider "waste"... for some, certainly not imperialist, reason...

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      Trump never really understood

      You could have stopped there.

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      • baggins@beehaw.orgB [email protected]

        You'd think a businessman as bigly smart (people tell him all the time, many people) as he is would understand this.

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        He's a dealer, not a businessman. Deal ≠ business economics ≠ national economics ≠ global economics.

        If you apply the "art of the deal" to the global economy, you'll wreck it. Well, if you apply his "art of the deal", you'll wreck basically anything except you're own wallet.

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          U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

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          This sounds like it came from the same guy who wanted to sue companies for not advertising on twitter

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            Have they thanked us for buying their weapons yet…

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            And I don’t think they were wearing the right suits …

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            • saltsong@startrek.websiteS [email protected]

              I wonder if he understands the conflict between "open market" and "tariffs," or if this is just a case of him not understanding that other countries get to make their own policy, or what.

              I don't want the patient of the US to be operating under Maxim 13.

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              This is not about tariffs. If you buy US weapons, the US has some control over their use. You generally need ammunition, spare parts, service the weapons and for some more modern ones access to US servers. The contracts also usually include clauses of needing US permission to resell those weapons.

              There were some rumors that the US forbid US made weapons to be given to Ukraine for some time. The EU does not want something similar to happen, if Russia attacks them.

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                This is not about tariffs. If you buy US weapons, the US has some control over their use. You generally need ammunition, spare parts, service the weapons and for some more modern ones access to US servers. The contracts also usually include clauses of needing US permission to resell those weapons.

                There were some rumors that the US forbid US made weapons to be given to Ukraine for some time. The EU does not want something similar to happen, if Russia attacks them.

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                This may not be only about tariffs, but they play into it, if only by making other countries unhappy with us.

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                  U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

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                  EU not purchasing weapons from America; that's shocking! Anyway.

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                    U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

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                    Well ... We want you to put the orange turd in jail and quit being dicks to everybody. You can't always get what you want, can you?

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                      U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

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                      What till Americans figure out where high quality small arms come from. Glock anyone? Beretta, Heckler & Koch, Benelli, Browning Arms Company (yes, Browning), SIG Sauer, Springfield Armory, Taurus (some), Chiappa, and more. And don't forget our Filipino friends at Rock Island Armory!

                      Sadly, this part of the tariff shitshow may actually work since we already have plenty of quality domestic producers. But fuck me, the SIG Sauer is the standard US military sidearm and Glock is standard everywhere else. Have fun cop budgets!

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                        What till Americans figure out where high quality small arms come from. Glock anyone? Beretta, Heckler & Koch, Benelli, Browning Arms Company (yes, Browning), SIG Sauer, Springfield Armory, Taurus (some), Chiappa, and more. And don't forget our Filipino friends at Rock Island Armory!

                        Sadly, this part of the tariff shitshow may actually work since we already have plenty of quality domestic producers. But fuck me, the SIG Sauer is the standard US military sidearm and Glock is standard everywhere else. Have fun cop budgets!

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                        I ... can't imagine the US government cares about that (excuse the pun) caliber of gun too much. Police guns will largely be paid for from municipal and state budgets rather than the federal budget, and there's something larger at stake:

                        • Large US producers want to make profits, and I can't imagine that small, extremely commoditized weapons are the best option for that.
                        • The US government would probably like gain more control over the EU. If the US were to attack Greenland, they'd probably be happier if EU nations were immobilized because [shenanigans].

                        I may be wrong.

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                          He's a dealer, not a businessman. Deal ≠ business economics ≠ national economics ≠ global economics.

                          If you apply the "art of the deal" to the global economy, you'll wreck it. Well, if you apply his "art of the deal", you'll wreck basically anything except you're own wallet.

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                          A del would imply he’s good at negotiation. He isn’t. He’s good at leveraging people, but mostly that’s been illegal. If he was good at deals, he wouldn’t have messed up international relations, which is deal making, but more complex. He’s a rich kid that fell upwards and inspired a cult following through sheer luck.

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                            U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

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                            Maffia. All of them.

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