TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History
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Apparently it does not, in the context that you claim.
Prove it. Show me one of their ads for the event where you’re not seeing the sponsors listed.
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Yes, they seem to be attempting to avoid a MAGA boycott by saying this is a personal choice by the Walton heiress, which just coincidentally aligns with Walmart’s pushback attempts against cuts to social benefit programs that’s expected to impact their profits.
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5 million people are doing something, your comment is shitting on their effort.
And 2-3 million were doing something a few months ago with the earlier protests. With any luck this trajectory continues
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That's great news. The other 9 of the 10 biggest protests were were extremely successful at affecting change.
Since we made such massive progress on all the others, this is clearly a harbinger of social and political progress.
wrote last edited by [email protected]- George Floyd (Police Brutality)
- Earth Day 1970 (Environmental Protection)
- No Kings (Trump)
- Hands Across America (Poverty)
- Women's March 2017 (Feminism)
- Hands Off (Trump)
- March for Our Lives (Gun Violence)
- Women's March 2018 (Feminism)
- #RickyRenuncia (Puerto Rico, Resignation of Ricardo Rosselló)
- Great American Boycott (Immigrant Rights)
Only #9 actually accomplished what they wanted.
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I searched and didnt find one. Maybe you can verify YOUR claim?
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Do you think that the needle has moved in a positive direction since these protests? Even if it feels like only a few millimetres?
Starting from the bottom of this list:
5. There's more women in the workforce than ever before https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2022001/article/00009-eng.htm
4. We've seen a drop in poverty since 2017 (but it's climbing back up!) https://www160.statcan.gc.ca/prosperity-prosperite/poverty-pauvrete-eng.htm
3. As a direct response to Trump, Canada elected a Centre-Left Prime Minister in Marl Carney's Liberals when the election was decidedly going to be a Rightwing landslide with the Poilievre's Conservatives.
2. Green, renewable energy has never been more popular.- There have been significant reforms since the George Floyd protests. Some cops have seen prison time, or lost their jobs entirely.
That's not to say our job is done and everything is a utopia now - we still have a lot of work to do. However, we do need to acknowledge when things have moved in a good direction or we'll be overwhelmed by the bad and lose hope.
You've gotta see some of the good through all the shitty headlines that want to make you click and feel bad.
Your first source is about women working in Canada and your second is about poverty in Canada.
Unless I missed something, Canada still is a sovereign nation despite what Trump wants.
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Notice the merelly starting the very sentence sentence you quote from me about the George Floyd protests.
The pigs are still often holding people down by putting their knee on that person's neck, so how exactly has the largest demonstration in America changed anything?!
Again, my point is that demonstrations have to be more than walking whilst holding a board up - at the very least they have to be opportunities to get contacts from other people with a view of joining grassroots groups for change.
If all that people do is walk and shout with lots of other people and then at the end of it go home with a feeling of achievement and do nothing further, all you get out of it is what you got with the George Floyd ones - empty promises from politicians and no actual change - when what all those millions of American should have gotten was a restructuring of policing in the US.
People here are way over-celebrating something which means very little unless we see that it has led to many following it with getting involved in politics and/or grassroots movements - it's premature and it makes me suspect that for many who participated this one demonstration was it and they aren't following it through with next steps.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Notice the merelly starting the very sentence sentence you quote from me about the George Floyd protests. The pigs are still often holding people down by putting their knee on that person's neck, so how exactly has the largest demonstration in America changed anything?!
Assuming you meant merelly as merely I saw it but your claim that no change occurred is wrong. The change that did occur was unsustained because people in the US got complacent. They protested and cared for a while but then they stopped paying attention and things started back the way the were, now worse in some areas.
Notice how I said sustained effort? The thing that didn't happen after George Floyd.
If all that people do is walk and shout with lots of other people and then at the end of it go home with a feeling of achievement and do nothing further
"Do nothing further"? You mean further than the protests 2 days ago that set record numbers? Or the ones that have been ongoing every weekend for months? That have been building and increasing to the No Kings day protest? Is that the do nothing further you're referring to?
People here are way over-celebrating something which means very little unless we see that it has led to many following it with getting involved in politics and/or grassroots movements
Are you in regular contact with the majority of the US population that you can say that hasn't been happening? I'm pretty sure the growing numbers of protesters is people getting "involved in politics and/or grassroots movements".
it's premature and it makes me suspect that for many who participated this one demonstration was it and they aren't following it through with next steps.
Oh, you're predicting the future 48 hours post protest. This is just the same bullshit "your protesting isn't good enough" sentiment everywhere else on Lemmy repackaged and with more words.
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Yes, they seem to be attempting to avoid a MAGA boycott by saying this is a personal choice by the Walton heiress, which just coincidentally aligns with Walmart’s pushback attempts against cuts to social benefit programs that’s expected to impact their profits.
So YOUR ASSERTION is that all the ads say "No Kings Day, brought to you by WalMart!" but they're offended by ONE ad (in a publication that MAGA hates and would never pay to see) and that might possibly cost them the MAGA patronage?
Explain this. In detail. Fully.
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So YOUR ASSERTION is that all the ads say "No Kings Day, brought to you by WalMart!" but they're offended by ONE ad (in a publication that MAGA hates and would never pay to see) and that might possibly cost them the MAGA patronage?
Explain this. In detail. Fully.
I don’t know how to explain this in a way you’ll understand it. I don’t have any training in teaching the mentally challenged.
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Ah, now I understand your "logic". I didn't pay attention to the instance you are from at first.
Isn't this just admission to stereotyping which is inherently illogical?
The US is an oligarchy. Any actual threat to that would be suppressed. Because these protests were not suppressed, what conclusion can be drawn?
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Just as the George Floyd protests did not produce real change
That's just not true though. You're just spouting bullshit on the internet.
That link states that no federal reform occurred. Which supports my point.
Of the state level changes, they are all aesthetic and surface level changes - and even those are now being undone.
So I'm not seeing the real change. Which demonstrates that the protests were not effective
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I don’t know how to explain this in a way you’ll understand it. I don’t have any training in teaching the mentally challenged.
OR....
It is a contradiction that makes no fucking sense
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Ok. I'm too chicken shit to actually show up in person to one of these protests.
What's the next best thing I can do to meaningfully help?
Fucking show up is what you can do.
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OR....
It is a contradiction that makes no fucking sense
Are struggling with bipolar or some other personality disorder? It’s one thing to not understand something. It’s quite another to be aggressively confused. This is not healthy.
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Can you provide examples? From what I gather, 1 cops are still killing people, 2 we're still speeding towards climate catastrophe, 3 Trump is still in power, 4 Poverty and wealth disparity is getting worse, 5 Women in many walks of life are still second class citizens.
Unless the lasting impact you mean is one step forwards three steps backwards.
The comment told me to take a guess so I did although my answer was intentionally wrong because I thought my questions answer was obvious. None of the things listed have remained relevant
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Ok. I'm too chicken shit to actually show up in person to one of these protests.
What's the next best thing I can do to meaningfully help?
You'll only be scared before you go to the protest. Once you're there you'll be fine. The vibe on the ground at every protest I've been to is great and there's a real feeling of camaraderie and support from your community. There is some risk, yes. It's probably still safer than crossing the street.
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Ok. I'm too chicken shit to actually show up in person to one of these protests.
What's the next best thing I can do to meaningfully help?
wrote last edited by [email protected]wear a mask and dark shades to stay anonymous and stand in quietly in back then. the trick is numbers. you don't have to heft a sign and chant slogans and be a spectacle if you don't want to, you can just fill space and it will still help.
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Oligarchy is not supported by the majority. Yet it exists nonetheless
oligarchy is supported by the rich and powerful which is how it exists against the majority; I doubt you're suggesting looting is a feasible option for the same reasons...
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oligarchy is supported by the rich and powerful which is how it exists against the majority; I doubt you're suggesting looting is a feasible option for the same reasons...
wrote last edited by [email protected]The point is that majority support is unnecessary for a thing to exist. In fact, it increasingly appears to be an irrelevant metric in general
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Hardly a “claim.” They didn’t hide it. Their backers were listed right on many of their ads.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/walmart-ad-no-kings-boycott/
Right there in the article it says that she's the heiress, and not on the board or involved with Walmart in any way besides her familial relation. If billionaires want to chip in for organizing and advertising protests, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. This is one of those moments in history where you take the support you can get and do your virtue testing bullshit after things are less dire.
